Can't choose the FR5 pallet pattern from a neat top view

GabrielChen1149 · 21 Jul 2025, 12:26 UTC

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GabrielChen1149
I'm reviewing our FR5 pallet proposal and the rotated cartons put their supported ends over gaps in the layer below; is a filled sample stack with the proposed tool outline a sensible cheap first review, before we spend more time making the animation prettier?

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OmarChen1187
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Yes, with packaging involved. Mark where the load is supported inside each carton. I would not judge it from the top looking level.

17 points
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GabrielChen1149
Replying to OmarChen1187

We have the insert drawing now, and the load goes through two narrow end sections rather than the entire bottom; that explains why the solid carton model looked so reassuring

6 points
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JackAli0254
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Who supplied the requirement for those end sections? I would make sure it is for this packed carton revision before using it to reject every rotated option

11 points
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GabrielChen1149
Replying to JackAli0254

Our packaging engineer supplied it for the current filled case, revision C; I've asked them to mark the acceptable support on the proposed layer drawing as well

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HassanBarnes0530
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Our packaging review rejected a rotated layer for much the same reason, though they still wanted to assess how a supported alternative stayed together during handling; a straight stack wasn't a free pass either

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OmarChen1187
Replying to HassanBarnes0530

That's the bit I would leave to packaging. I can see why the gap is worrying, but I can't tell you how the whole load will behave in transport.

21 points
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PavelBell0614
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Can a lower carton count keep the required support?

19 points
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GabrielChen1149
Replying to PavelBell0614

Designer has a lower-count option, but dispatch dislikes the extra pallet movements; they haven't rejected it outright, so we're putting that cost beside the original proposal

12 points
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JackAli0254
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Does the customer require a fixed pallet quantity, or is dispatch protecting the current internal routine? Those are rather different reasons to keep the count

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GabrielChen1149
Replying to JackAli0254

Internal routine, no fixed customer quantity on this order family; storage space and the extra movements are real concerns though, not just reluctance to change

14 points
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HassanBarnes0530
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Then show dispatch the actual two options rather than selling fewer cartons as obviously better, because they may find a handling route or storage snag that the drawing team never sees

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OmarChen1187
Replying to GabrielChen1149

And show the tool fingers opening on both. Supporting the carton is no use if the proposed tool can't leave it there.

14 points
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GabrielChen1149
Replying to OmarChen1187

Tool supplier says the lower-count option has room to release on the long side, but the outside corner still needs review; thanks Omar, I had only asked about the closed fingers

16 points
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JackAli0254
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Which layout revision did they assess? The corner question sounds like something that could change when the spacing is updated

10 points
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GabrielChen1149
Replying to JackAli0254

P3, current proposal; P2 is the original high-count arrangement, and the emails now name them instead of both saying revised layout

8 points
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PavelBell0614
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Did packaging accept P3's support for a trial?

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OmarChen1187
Replying to PavelBell0614

Pavel means support under the packed cases, Gabriel. The tool supplier's long-side answer won't settle packaging's part of it.

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GabrielChen1149
Replying to PavelBell0614

They accepted P3 for the agreed loaded trial, not final use; corner tool clearance and the dispatch handling trial are still outstanding

21 points
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HassanBarnes0530
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Useful distinction, thanks; our first email said accepted and took a second conversation to establish that it meant acceptable to test, not ready for the warehouse

12 points
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PavelBell0614
Replying to GabrielChen1149

Any result from that trial, or still waiting on the corner clearance?

21 points

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