FR10 pending state hides the gap between sending and saving

LouisBaker0485 · 17 Jun 2026, 03:06 UTC

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LouisBaker0485
Our verification request was sent before the application crashed, but its result wasn't saved; startup would resend the pending row. How should I preserve that uncertainty while separating it from genuinely unsubmitted plate jobs?

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OliverBaker0450
Replying to LouisBaker0485

Keep the automatic resend stopped for that uncertain group while you reconcile it with receiver-side evidence, because the file describes what your application saved, not necessarily everything the receiver did after the request arrived.

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LouisBaker0485
Replying to OliverBaker0450

Automatic resubmission is disabled for the investigation. The pending file is retained; I have not converted its rows to unsent just because no result is present.

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DanielBaker0478
Replying to LouisBaker0485

Is there an attempt identifier on both sides, separate from the part or job name? I'd want to know what can actually link a receiver result to that pending row before discussing retry behaviour.

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DanielAli0217
Replying to DanielBaker0478

And does that identifier survive an application restart? A fresh counter can reuse an old number.

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LouisBaker0485
Replying to DanielBaker0478

Only a job name in the old records. It can be reused, so I have no unique attempt link across the crash.

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RaviAbbott0041
Replying to LouisBaker0485

Keep the old outcome unresolved on that evidence. A better future identifier cannot retroactively tell you which old execution belongs to the row.

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OliverBaker0450
Replying to LouisBaker0485

For the new design, the software and receiver owners need a durable attempt identity and defined handling of repeated delivery; otherwise moving the save earlier just shifts the crash gap to another line.

8 points
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DanielBaker0478
Replying to OliverBaker0450

Oliver, agreed. I'd ask the test to stop after receiver completion but before the local save as well as before any send. Those are different cases for the recovery screen, even if the current helper calls both pending.

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LouisBaker0485
Replying to RaviAbbott0041

The draft now distinguishes unsent, outcome unknown and confirmed result. The old rows are not automatically assigned to those new categories; controls and quality will review the evidence they actually have.

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RaviAbbott0041
Replying to LouisBaker0485

Who sees the unknown rows while that review is open? They should remain visible without joining the completed count or the automatic work list.

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LouisBaker0485
Replying to RaviAbbott0041

The operator view will show a review hold and the identified job, with the review owner named. That is drafted, not tested. This old plate attempt still has no established result.

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DanielAli0217
Replying to LouisBaker0485

Will reopening during that review preserve the hold, rather than resurrect the automatic resend?

9 points

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