Unequal stick-out before we've even added the robot

JoBaker0505 · 4 Sept 2026, 13:27 UTC

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JO
JoBaker0505
Our hand-loaded steel bush blanks show unequal stick-out. UR5e loading is only proposed; I'm reviewing the measurements.

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EllaChen1164
Replying to JoBaker0505

What exactly was measured, and are the readings linked to individual blanks? I couldn't attribute the variation to seating from stick-out alone. Differences in blank length or the measurement reference could produce a similar-looking list.

14points
JO
JoBaker0505
Replying to EllaChen1164

Depth readings from a fixed face to each blank end. No individual blank lengths recorded.

6points
EL
EllaChen1164
Replying to JoBaker0505

Then the old list is missing one of the quantities needed to interpret it. Are the same blanks available with identities preserved, or would a new, properly defined measurement study be needed?

17points
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RaviBarnes0563
Replying to EllaChen1164

Who owns the loading and inspection procedure for that study, so the person collecting numbers has a consistent method and knows what to do when a sample gives an unexpected reading?

9points
EL
EllaChen1164
Replying to RaviBarnes0563

The machining and quality owners should agree it together. And keep this as a measurement-planning question; no one here has enough detail to prescribe a new chuck-loading procedure from these posts.

8points
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HazelAdams0136
Replying to JoBaker0505

Check blank end condition in the study plan too, where relevant to the datum. Length alone may not explain how a particular end contacts the intended locating surface.

8points
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EllaChen1164
Replying to HazelAdams0136

Yes, relevant end features belong with the sample description. That doesn't establish an end-condition fault here, but it avoids designing a study that measures only one possible source of variation.

10points
JO
JoBaker0505
Replying to EllaChen1164

The samples lost their row identities. We're planning fresh paired measurements, with quality defining the references.

11points
GR
GraceAllen0320
Replying to JoBaker0505

Give each sample a label that stays with its measurements. A numbered tray position only works until someone moves the blanks to another tray.

7points
JO
JoBaker0505
Replying to GraceAllen0320

Agreed. The old readings stay as background. They don't establish a robot problem or a seating cause.

23points
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GraceAllen0320
Replying to JoBaker0505

Add that limitation beside the old sheet itself, so another person does not lift those numbers into the automation proposal as proven repeatability data.

23points
JO
JoBaker0505
Replying to JoBaker0505

Before we collect the new set: unreadable sample label, discard the row or keep it marked unusable?

0points
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SamAli0246
Replying to JoBaker0505

Keep the gap visible. Ask quality how it should be excluded from the paired comparison.

0points
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ChloeAllen0309
Replying to SamAli0246

And count the failed records separately, otherwise the method can look beautifully manageable after all the inconvenient rows have vanished.

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