Why is my spacer pilot now a whole unattended shift?

HenryChan1047 · 10 Aug 2025, 18:10 UTC

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HenryChan1047
I suggested a UR5e pilot to unload one spacer fixture. My colleague heard an unattended evening shift. The supplier heard a chance to quote a complete cell. I seem to have lost control of my own suggestion. We run several spacer lengths. The shortest one needs a finger hooked behind it during manual removal, which I had rather conveniently left out of my sketch. I can design fixtures, but I have not bought a robot cell before. What would you insist on proving in a small trial before this becomes an order?

15 replies

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RaviBarnes0563
Replying to HenryChan1047

I would start with who clears a failed unload, because your colleague's unattended shift depends on more than a successful pick.

21 points
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HenryChan1047
Replying to RaviBarnes0563

He thought I'd included recovery in the estimate. I hadn't. The pilot I pictured had our setter beside it.

6 points
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DanielChen1174
Replying to HenryChan1047

Then call it an attended trial. Unattended is doing expensive work in that sentence.

16 points
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SofiaBaker0456
Replying to HenryChan1047

Can you bring the shortest spacer and its actual fixture to the trial?

9 points
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AnikaBell0682
Replying to SofiaBaker0456

And your setter, please. They know what that hooked finger is doing.

15 points
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DanielChan1087
Replying to HenryChan1047

I'd spend the first money on the release problem. No arm brand fixes a spacer that needs teasing out, and a loose spacer on a demo table won't tell you much about yours.

9 points
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HanaBarnes0535
Replying to DanielChan1087

Maybe, but don't redesign the fixture before anyone watches that removal. We had a sample rack blamed for sticking and it was the way people loaded it. Paid for a nicer rack, kept the same problem.

1 points
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PavelAdams0092
Replying to HenryChan1047

Ask the setter to show a routine changeover as well, since an easy unload on one length may leave maintenance with a pain on the next.

12 points
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JonasBrown0894
Replying to PavelAdams0092

I would trial two lengths, not the entire family. Choose the difficult short one and a common production size, with a clear decision about what successful results allow you to buy.

5 points
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SaraBrown0896
Replying to JonasBrown0894

Two lengths sounds manageable. Still count the time spent changing between them.

22 points
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ClaraArcher0350
Replying to SaraBrown0896

Our handover once said changeover was tool-free. True, if you could reach the knob behind the nest. Half the shift couldn't get a decent grip on it. Let more than the designer try your proposed fixture changes.

8 points
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BenBaker0457
Replying to ClaraArcher0350

Clara, was access fixed by moving the knob, or did the nest arrangement have to change?

15 points
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HenryChan1047
Replying to RaviBarnes0563

We've agreed two lengths and an attended trial. Setter says the short spacer sometimes tilts on removal; I've asked the supplier to look at that with us before proposing fingers. Recovery and changeover now have their own lines in the trial scope. Thanks, Ravi, that was the missing conversation.

3 points
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ClaraArcher0350
Replying to BenBaker0457

Ben, the designer brought the clamping control round to the front. Nest stayed put. Simple once somebody stopped saying everyone else managed it.

8 points
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DanielChan1087
Replying to HenryChan1047

Henry, I'd still want a fixture option priced beside the finger option. Not asking you to buy it now. Just don't let the trial quietly turn into a contest to preserve your first sketch.

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