RaviChen1172 · 18 Jun 2026, 13:33 UTC
What would make your colleague say the pilot had earned another stage?
9 pointsI'd start with the actual manual job. Not just pulling a housing out, I mean who gets the fixture ready, checks the part and clears the space for the next one. Which of that have you timed?
17 pointsDo not use all 125 as the experiment by default. Agree what variation the pilot needs to cover and preserve a workable production route.
17 pointsRosa, she wants less operator attendance without pushing fixture preparation onto maintenance. Theo, I've only timed the removal itself. That explains why our sums looked so cheerful. We haven't booked the 125 into a robot trial.
17 pointsIs the fixture repeatable enough for unloading, or is that still a proposed improvement?
6 pointsTime the ordinary awkward ones too. I once got volunteered as the person who straightened everything before a demo. The robot had a very relaxing afternoon.
5 pointsChloe, preparation can be legitimate work, provided the comparison admits who does it; I would be more worried about a fixture change that only the visiting supplier knows how to repeat.
8 pointsAgreed, Bruno. My complaint was that my time vanished from the result, not that preparing parts is cheating.
5 pointsGabriel, fixture repeatability is unmeasured. We're doing a manual observation first and asking the fixture maker what a repeatable presentation would require. Thanks Chloe; I've added preparation as visible work, not a footnote.
22 pointsInclude inspection and rework in that manual observation. Faster removal is not a benefit if the housing then needs extra handling to establish its condition.
15 pointsNora's point is the one that would catch us. We count a part when it's out of the machine, then somebody at the bench gets the messy bit. Ravi, where does your comparison finish?
8 pointsAt an accepted housing in the receiving tray, with the fixture ready again. My colleague helped define that. The manual observation found attendance at both ends, so robot motion time alone won't answer her question.
13 pointsThat also gives the supplier a handover boundary: routine fixture preparation, normal unloading and the actions expected after an interruption, with training and support costs attached to the proposal.
18 pointsHas she agreed the attendance target, or only where the measurement ends?
3 pointsOnly the boundary so far. We still need the fixture estimate before agreeing a worthwhile attendance reduction. I was about to write 'pilot agreed', which would have annoyed her all over again.
5 pointsThen the fixture estimate is buying information, not buying the robot. Sensible place to pause.
25 pointsDid the estimate arrive with a way to test repeatability, or just a price?
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