I asked about support under the rotated boxes and got another top view. Our proposed finger gaps are clear. What sits beneath the carton bearing areas still is not.
We have the same empty-pallet view problem on a UR5e proposal. Ask for a section through an upper box and whatever is directly below its supports. No need for another beautiful overhead picture.
Tooling needs that section too. I suggested aligned layers in another discussion, but that was only an option to assess, not a replacement for checking the actual support and finger withdrawal together.
Liam, packaging has packed samples. They specified two bearing strips. The layout designer drew the box outline but left those strips out of the layer views.
And retain the packed condition when options are compared. A different internal pack can move the support problem while leaving the outside rectangle unchanged. We have had that confusion on a sample-handling job.
The new section is back. One bearing strip crosses a finger channel on the upper layer. Packaging and tooling disagree on how to change it, so there is no approval yet.
I'd be interested too. In particular, whether either suggestion adds work at carton preparation or pallet removal; those jobs can disappear when everyone concentrates on the tool between two boxes.
Nina, did the section change anyone's view of the original pattern, even if they haven't agreed the replacement? Getting them to argue about the same gap feels like progress.