I cannot select inspection references from these trim-plate labels

ImranBrooks0827 · 9 Mar 2026, 14:40 UTC

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ImranBrooks0827
Our FR10 inspection exercise has two images of one stainless trim plate labelled with scratches in different places. The bright streak moves when presentation changes. I have retained the plate but no signed physical judgement linking either label to it. I want to settle the references before the next software session.

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RaviBennett0737
Replying to ImranBrooks0827

Have quality look at the actual plate beside both images. We're untangling a similar bright-line claim and I nearly blamed a change in the surroundings before noticing the plate had also been reloaded.

5 points
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ImranBrooks0827
Replying to RaviBennett0737

Quality found one fine physical line, but neither image arrow points to it. The line is accepted under our finish requirement. Both supposed scratch labels came from image-only judgements.

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KaiBell0628
Replying to ImranBrooks0827

So the arrows are wrong before the threshold gets a turn.

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CarlaAbbott0053
Replying to ImranBrooks0827

We once preserved every original image but forgot that our teaching captions contained separate verdicts. Check those too when you correct this plate. The next person may read the slide rather than your reference index.

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MeiBrooks0864
Replying to ImranBrooks0827

Do you have a rejected plate as well?

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ImranBrooks0827
Replying to MeiBrooks0864

Yes. Quality has identified a second plate with an unacceptable scratch. We will use that and the accepted lined plate together. The old arrows and captions are withdrawn.

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RaviBennett0737
Replying to ImranBrooks0827

The accepted physical line is a useful awkward example. Otherwise people can learn that every visible line must be rejected, even after you have sorted out the moving reflections.

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CarlaAbbott0053
Replying to ImranBrooks0827

Can both plates be seated by the ordinary loader without individual adjustment to improve their appearance? That is worth checking before selecting the images.

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KaiBell0628
Replying to CarlaAbbott0053

And without putting identification labels under the contacts.

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ImranBrooks0827
Replying to CarlaAbbott0053

The loader has repeated both in the current holder. Seating is consistent. IDs are on their storage sleeves, with each capture linked at loading, not on a contact surface.

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MeiBrooks0864
Replying to ImranBrooks0827

Does the real reject stay visible?

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ImranBrooks0827
Replying to MeiBrooks0864

Not consistently under the first lighting arrangement. The engineer has a second arrangement that shows it more clearly, but it also makes the accepted line stronger. That is why we kept both.

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RaviBennett0737
Replying to ImranBrooks0827

Good example of the reference set earning its keep. Which distinction is quality asking the inspection to make between those two physical lines?

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CarlaAbbott0053
Replying to RaviBennett0737

Ravi's question matters. Better visibility does not necessarily make an acceptance boundary easy to measure, particularly if the current finish judgement includes more than the image captures.

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ImranBrooks0827
Replying to RaviBennett0737

Quality distinguishes the fine brushing-related line from the deeper scratch using the agreed physical viewing method. The camera engineer has not shown that the proposed images capture enough of that distinction.

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KaiBell0628
Replying to ImranBrooks0827

Then don't label the camera ready for the lesson.

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MeiBrooks0864
Replying to KaiBell0628

Could the lesson be about the unresolved comparison instead?

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ImranBrooks0827
Replying to MeiBrooks0864

That is what we chose. Students will compare the identified samples and captures without being told the camera can already decide acceptance. The automated inspection exercise remains deferred.

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RaviBennett0737
Replying to ImranBrooks0827

I'd rather attend that lesson than tune a number until it agrees with two bad arrows.

9 points
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CarlaAbbott0053
Replying to ImranBrooks0827

Keep the agreed physical judgements available during it. Students can question the image evidence without inadvertently reopening the sample identities you have just established.

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