How should our FR5 know which connector insert is actually fitted?

FelixBrooks0806 · 28 Dec 2025, 11:49 UTC

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FelixBrooks0806
At the bench review I put the two housing inserts into their carrier without the labels facing me. Both fitted, and both could be fitted backwards. The samples even looked reasonably settled from above. The proposed recipe check asks the operator to confirm the name printed on the storage box. I can follow that instruction correctly and still have the wrong insert in the carrier. Before this is automated, what should tooling and controls establish together? I would prefer a changeover that does not depend on everyone remembering the afternoon we nearly mixed these up.

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SaraArcher0374
Replying to FelixBrooks0806

Ask tooling how orientation and family can be physically distinguished, and controls how the installed identity is matched to the recipe. The storage box can help issue the part; it cannot confirm installation.

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FelixBrooks0806
Replying to SaraArcher0374

Tooling says a mounting change could prevent reversal, but has not said it would distinguish the families. I have kept those as separate questions. The current carrier would accept either insert with that proposed change.

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NoraAbbott0061
Replying to FelixBrooks0806

Then the family check remains necessary. Include removal after a valid match, so a previous confirmation does not survive an insert exchange unnoticed.

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EllaAllen0294
Replying to FelixBrooks0806

Could you walk through a wrong-family example with the operator before choosing hardware? I would include a correct storage box beside the wrong fitted insert, because that is the particular confidence trap your current instruction creates.

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FelixBrooks0806
Replying to EllaAllen0294

We did that with our usual setter. They correctly read the box and then stopped because they couldn't tell whether the installed insert belonged to it. Useful hesitation. The instruction currently asks them to confirm more than they can see.

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AaronBrooks0784
Replying to FelixBrooks0806

Keep that hesitation. Don't train them to click through it.

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SaraArcher0374
Replying to FelixBrooks0806

Ella's example is useful. Also ask who receives the problem when the match cannot be established. An operator needs an agreed route, not just a screen that refuses to continue.

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NoraAbbott0061
Replying to SaraArcher0374

And distinguish unreadable identity from a known wrong family in the proposed explanation, while keeping both from borrowing an earlier valid match.

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FelixBrooks0806
Replying to NoraAbbott0061

The draft now separates those cases and identifies the shift lead as the contact. Controls and tooling are still defining the installed-identity arrangement; no reader has been bought.

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EllaAllen0294
Replying to FelixBrooks0806

Who will review replacement inserts against the recipe mapping later? A family name can stay the same while a tooling revision changes the actual contacts.

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FelixBrooks0806
Replying to EllaAllen0294

Tooling coordinator with controls. Stores will issue against the approved assembly reference. The location of the proposed identity mark is still being reviewed because it must remain with the insert during normal maintenance.

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SaraArcher0374
Replying to FelixBrooks0806

Does the shift lead have a defined response for the unreadable case yet? Naming them is useful, but they should not inherit an instruction to make the identification work by persuasion.

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