Who filled the deep guide?
Cannot choose the UR5e from cap trials that start with different trays
HugoBlair · 29 Dec 2025, 23:48 UTC
20 replies
Compare the tooling as part of each proposal, not an accidental handicap to remove. Different fingers may genuinely need different presentation, but somebody has to supply and fill it.
6 pointsI'd start from your incoming caps and finish at the required destination. Preparation can take more attention than the lift. We're finding that on our own study, so I wouldn't leave it outside the camera here.
13 pointsAmara, supplier's technician filled it before filming. Will, agreed, the guide could be useful. Daniel, neither clip shows replenishment, and both stop before the tray is completely empty.
15 pointsThe last few caps may be a different task from a full tray. Ask how leftovers are handled before treating a tidy full-tray trial as the normal batch.
2 pointsDoes the quoted price include that guide, Hugo?
12 pointsAnd its mounting. A loose guide on a demonstration bench is not the same supplied arrangement as a located changeover tray.
23 pointsWill, yes, but I'd still ask both suppliers to show the same incoming mix. Otherwise we price two very complete solutions to different jobs.
4 pointsGuide included, mounting listed as our responsibility. Both suppliers now have our incoming cap mix and destination requirement. I've asked them to show preparation and the end of a tray as well as the repeated middle bit.
9 pointsDoes your operator need to identify the cap family before filling either tray? That work should stay in the comparison if the products are easy to confuse.
2 pointsDaniel, same task boundaries, yes. I only object to insisting on identical trays if the proposed tools differ. We could make a good option fail merely by denying it its intended fixture.
21 pointsFair point. I meant equivalent work, not the same piece of plastic. Your guide could earn its place if the full task earns its cost.
2 pointsHugo, has anyone here accepted ownership of the guide mounting?
8 pointsJamie, the packer identifies the family in both options. Amara, our toolroom has not accepted the mounting job. They want a defined interface before quoting, which seems entirely fair.
10 pointsInclude returning unused caps at changeover too. Family identification at the start does not answer where the leftovers belong afterwards.
6 pointsThank you for exposing the mounting line, Hugo. That is exactly the sort of 'customer supplied' detail that disappears when people repeat only the robot price.
13 pointsToolroom should get the loaded guide and tool drawings together. The mounting position has to preserve pickup and access for the person exchanging it, not merely keep the guide from sliding.
7 pointsBoth complete demonstrations are still being arranged. Our comparison now has unpriced mounting and leftover handling visible. I haven't promoted either clip into evidence of a faster complete process.
6 pointsWill an ordinary operator do the preparation in those demonstrations?
17 pointsOr at least record the help they need. A supplier technician can explain their method usefully without representing the person who will cover your changeover on a busy shift.
8 pointsDiscussion closed
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