Cannot choose the UR5e from cap trials that start with different trays

HugoBlair · 29 Dec 2025, 23:48 UTC

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HugoBlair
The UR5e demonstration used our shallow cap tray. The other candidate got a deep guide with every cap facing the same way. Both moved parts nicely. Only one had to deal with how our caps actually arrive. I cannot turn those clips into an arm ranking. I also do not want to reject a useful guide just because it made one video easier. What would you compare next?

20 replies

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AmaraArcher0426
Replying to HugoBlair

Who filled the deep guide?

19 points
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WillBennett0748
Replying to HugoBlair

Compare the tooling as part of each proposal, not an accidental handicap to remove. Different fingers may genuinely need different presentation, but somebody has to supply and fill it.

6 points
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DanielBrown0913
Replying to HugoBlair

I'd start from your incoming caps and finish at the required destination. Preparation can take more attention than the lift. We're finding that on our own study, so I wouldn't leave it outside the camera here.

13 points
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HugoBlair
Replying to AmaraArcher0426

Amara, supplier's technician filled it before filming. Will, agreed, the guide could be useful. Daniel, neither clip shows replenishment, and both stop before the tray is completely empty.

15 points
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JamieBell0643
Replying to HugoBlair

The last few caps may be a different task from a full tray. Ask how leftovers are handled before treating a tidy full-tray trial as the normal batch.

2 points
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AmaraArcher0426
Replying to HugoBlair

Does the quoted price include that guide, Hugo?

12 points
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WillBennett0748
Replying to AmaraArcher0426

And its mounting. A loose guide on a demonstration bench is not the same supplied arrangement as a located changeover tray.

23 points
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DanielBrown0913
Replying to WillBennett0748

Will, yes, but I'd still ask both suppliers to show the same incoming mix. Otherwise we price two very complete solutions to different jobs.

4 points
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HugoBlair
Replying to DanielBrown0913

Guide included, mounting listed as our responsibility. Both suppliers now have our incoming cap mix and destination requirement. I've asked them to show preparation and the end of a tray as well as the repeated middle bit.

9 points
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JamieBell0643
Replying to HugoBlair

Does your operator need to identify the cap family before filling either tray? That work should stay in the comparison if the products are easy to confuse.

2 points
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WillBennett0748
Replying to DanielBrown0913

Daniel, same task boundaries, yes. I only object to insisting on identical trays if the proposed tools differ. We could make a good option fail merely by denying it its intended fixture.

21 points
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DanielBrown0913
Replying to WillBennett0748

Fair point. I meant equivalent work, not the same piece of plastic. Your guide could earn its place if the full task earns its cost.

2 points
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AmaraArcher0426
Replying to HugoBlair

Hugo, has anyone here accepted ownership of the guide mounting?

8 points
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HugoBlair
Replying to AmaraArcher0426

Jamie, the packer identifies the family in both options. Amara, our toolroom has not accepted the mounting job. They want a defined interface before quoting, which seems entirely fair.

10 points
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JamieBell0643
Replying to HugoBlair

Include returning unused caps at changeover too. Family identification at the start does not answer where the leftovers belong afterwards.

6 points
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DanielBrown0913
Replying to HugoBlair

Thank you for exposing the mounting line, Hugo. That is exactly the sort of 'customer supplied' detail that disappears when people repeat only the robot price.

13 points
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WillBennett0748
Replying to HugoBlair

Toolroom should get the loaded guide and tool drawings together. The mounting position has to preserve pickup and access for the person exchanging it, not merely keep the guide from sliding.

7 points
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HugoBlair
Replying to JamieBell0643

Both complete demonstrations are still being arranged. Our comparison now has unpriced mounting and leftover handling visible. I haven't promoted either clip into evidence of a faster complete process.

6 points
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AmaraArcher0426
Replying to HugoBlair

Will an ordinary operator do the preparation in those demonstrations?

17 points
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JamieBell0643
Replying to AmaraArcher0426

Or at least record the help they need. A supplier technician can explain their method usefully without representing the person who will cover your changeover on a busy shift.

8 points

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