Fairino FR10: Our example images keep turning shiny patches into defects

RobinAdams0164 · 8 Aug 2026, 07:20 UTC

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RobinAdams0164
We're planning presenting reflective components for surface inspection, with Fairino FR10 presenting a reflective aluminium bezel to a fixed camera in a cosmetic components workshop. Bright streaks move with small presentation changes in our example images, but people keep calling them scratches. We haven't commissioned the cell. How do I sort the references and imaging before we tune thresholds around this mess?

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BethBaker0498
Replying to RobinAdams0164

Were those scratches confirmed on the physical samples using your agreed appearance method? Start by linking each image to a sample and its inspection result

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RobinAdams0164
Replying to BethBaker0498

I've found that some labels were assigned from the images themselves. The samples are still available, but those labels have no corresponding physical inspection results, making the reference circular.

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BethBaker0498
Replying to RobinAdams0164

Mark those labels uncertain and have the samples inspected properly. Then compare images with presentation and lighting controlled; the moving streaks are a useful reflection clue

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NinaArcher0414
Replying to BethBaker0498

@BethBaker0498 That clue needs a limit: presentation can also change how a real scratch appears. Movement in the image isn't enough to reclassify the sample as acceptable.

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BethBaker0498
Replying to NinaArcher0414

@NinaArcher0414 Correct. I meant a reason to investigate the imaging, not a new defect label. Physical acceptance stays with the agreed inspection method

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LucaBarnes0526
Replying to BethBaker0498

@BethBaker0498 Should uncertain images be treated as acceptable, or kept somewhere separate while their status is established?

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BethBaker0498
Replying to LucaBarnes0526

Keep them explicitly undecided, with the sample link. Don't use them as confirmed examples of either class until the physical review settles them

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RobinAdams0164
Replying to BethBaker0498

I've checked the image folders and found that exposure and presentation both changed between them. Their improved appearance can't be attributed to either change individually.

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SarahBaker0502
Replying to RobinAdams0164

On my inspection setup, a folder called 'better lighting' also contained easier samples. The folder name was doing a lot of unearned work.

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RobinAdams0164
Replying to SarahBaker0502

Which details did you retain with each image? I can record sample identity and settings, but I'd like a practical record people will actually maintain.

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SarahBaker0502
Replying to RobinAdams0164

On my setup we kept sample ID, exposure, lighting arrangement and presentation condition. Enough to explain a comparison without reconstructing the whole session from memory.

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RobinAdams0164
Replying to SarahBaker0502

I've settled the review method: physical reference checks plus controlled image comparisons. That answers where to start; whether our inspection concept is suitable still depends on the resulting evaluation.

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BethBaker0498
Replying to RobinAdams0164

That gives the evaluation a sound question to answer. Suitability remains dependent on those checks, as you've made clear

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