Fairino FR5: Which drawings would connect carton support with gripper access?

MayaBrown0910 · 29 Aug 2026, 02:30 UTC

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MayaBrown0910
I'm reviewing an alternating layer pattern for our planned arranging shipping cartons in pallet layers with Fairino FR5 in a carton palletising project. Although the drawing fits the cartons neatly, a sealed corrugated shipping carton has a preferred support direction and some rotated positions lie above gaps. I'd like a joint review of packaging support and tool access before accepting it.

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SofiaBell0630
Replying to MayaBrown0910

@MayaBrown0910 Does your layer drawing show the load-bearing carton edges and pallet deck beneath them? Add those, then overlay the complete gripper outline.

6 points
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MayaBrown0910
Replying to SofiaBell0630

My current layer drawing shows carton footprints and a tool centre point only. It hasn't incorporated the support direction specified in the carton documentation.

16 points
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SofiaBell0630
Replying to MayaBrown0910

Give packaging and the integrator a drawing combining those details. A repeated unrotated layer is worth assessing alongside the alternating one because it may better suit the specified support direction.

14 points
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NinaAbbott0066
Replying to SofiaBell0630

The repeated arrangement remains a candidate, not an accepted solution. Its support and load stability still need assessment for the cartons with their actual contents.

-5 points
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SofiaBell0630
Replying to NinaAbbott0066

Agreed; I meant a comparison option. Packaging must assess both arrangements with the specified cartons and contents, including support and stability.

20 points
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AaronBrown0871
Replying to SofiaBell0630

I thought alternating layers always made a stronger stack. Is that too simple?

10 points
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SofiaBell0630
Replying to AaronBrown0871

Too general. The arrangement changes where loads pass through the cartons. Your packaging reviewer needs the actual construction and support geometry to judge it.

7 points
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MayaBrown0910
Replying to SofiaBell0630

@SofiaBell0630 The layer overlay shows carton edges above gaps below. That gives me something specific to mark for packaging instead of saying the pattern feels wrong.

17 points
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ElliotCarter1031
Replying to MayaBrown0910

On my dispatch setup, the top view hid the pallet deck gaps completely. Adding the deck drawing changed which positions needed packaging review

9 points
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MayaBrown0910
Replying to ElliotCarter1031

Was your accepted pattern linked to a particular pallet specification? My drawing currently names only the overall pallet size.

16 points
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ElliotCarter1031
Replying to MayaBrown0910

Specify the deck arrangement as well as the footprint. Two pallets with the same outside size needn't provide the same support underneath

18 points
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SofiaBell0630
Replying to MayaBrown0910

@MayaBrown0910 Add the complete tool geometry and adjacent cartons at the corner positions. A tool-centre point alone can't establish whether the body or fingers overlap nearby packaging.

3 points
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MayaBrown0910
Replying to SofiaBell0630

@SofiaBell0630 With the complete outline added, my offline layout shows a tool overlap with a neighbouring carton at one corner. I'll identify that specific position for the integrator's assessment.

5 points
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NinaAbbott0066
Replying to MayaBrown0910

Ask the review to include approach and release geometry. Even a clear final position wouldn't show that the tool can reach and leave it as required.

2 points
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MayaBrown0910
Replying to NinaAbbott0066

I'll request an offline assessment across all layers, including approach and release at that corner, rather than investigating an unreviewed pattern by manual jogging.

14 points
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AaronBrown0871
Replying to MayaBrown0910

@MayaBrown0910 What about the last layer if it isn't full? Does that need a drawing too?

9 points
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SofiaBell0630
Replying to AaronBrown0871

Any partial layers permitted by the process belong in the review. The packaging assessment needs to cover the resulting loads that dispatch may actually receive.

2 points
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MayaBrown0910
Replying to SofiaBell0630

Would it make sense to have packaging define permitted partial arrangements rather than treating every incomplete layer as covered?

-1 points
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SofiaBell0630
Replying to MayaBrown0910

Yes. Get the allowed arrangements defined, then have your integration plan work within them. Unassessed partial loads shouldn't inherit the full-pattern decision.

19 points
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ElliotCarter1031
Replying to SofiaBell0630

On my setup, that gave dispatch something specific to recognise. A picture of one perfect full pallet hadn't answered their partial-load question

14 points

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