What does our smooth FR5 carton demo say about taped dispatch boxes?

FelixChan1067 · 23 Jun 2026, 09:23 UTC

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FelixChan1067
The supplier demonstrated one smooth sample, but our planned 13-box dispatch transfer includes seams, print and different board surfaces. I need representative evidence for the FR5 vacuum concept, including what an operator does with a doubtful pickup. What should the comparison cover?

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ClaraAllen0263
Replying to FelixChan1067

Identify representative packed boxes and the proposed cup contact areas, then ask for pickup, the intended movement and release under those conditions. Include what makes a grip unacceptable and the engineered response. A single seal on smooth board does not establish that range.

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FelixChan1067
Replying to ClaraAllen0263

The intended cup position can fall across tape on some incoming boxes. The supplier has not stated whether that is permitted. Their demo does not show the final release into a lane either.

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NinaArcher0414
Replying to FelixChan1067

I'd start by photographing the actual contact areas on identified incoming examples and sending those with the filled samples. Not because photographs prove suction performance, but because they stop the next demonstration drifting back to whichever lovely smooth box is nearest the bench. Ask what variation they will accept or exclude before the trial, and involve packing if their answer requires a change to the cartons.

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ClaraAllen0263
Replying to NinaArcher0414

Nina, agreed. Any required preparation belongs in the process scope too. The operator should not discover during handover that making a tape-free pickup patch is now their job, with no time or materials allowed for it.

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FelixChan1067
Replying to NinaArcher0414

Packing is providing the present range without modifying it. We've asked the supplier to identify proposed cup locations and exclusions, and to include release. No alternative carton preparation agreed.

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NinaArcher0414
Replying to FelixChan1067

Thanks for making that explicit. Does the sample selection include the awkward closures from normal supply, not only damaged boxes somebody saved for a worst-case demonstration? Both the everyday variation and any defined reject condition matter.

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FelixChan1067
Replying to NinaArcher0414

Yes, ordinary packed examples with normal closure variation. We are not using damaged boxes as a stand-in for all difficult surfaces. The assessment has not returned, so concept acceptance remains open.

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