our fr10 pallet lesson uses the wrong carton section

MeiCarter1038 · 10 Feb 2026, 19:41 UTC

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MeiCarter1038
I checked the support section behind our alternating-layer exercise and found it belongs to the previous carton construction. The current case has different bearing areas underneath. I have stopped calling the pattern checked, but I would like to keep the lesson useful while packaging and tooling review the current case.

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JonasAbbott0024
Replying to MeiCarter1038

Show the old and current constructions separately, then ask what the existing pattern does to the current bearing areas. The old section can explain the mistake without remaining the basis for approval.

11 points
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LucyBrown0915
Replying to MeiCarter1038

Keep a non-rotated candidate in the exercise too. Our own comparison ended there, with lower count and more pallet handling. It was workable for us, not a general answer for every carton.

7 points
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ChenBennett0703
Replying to MeiCarter1038

Are any of the previous cartons still arriving in dispatch, Mei? A training sheet with one new drawing won't help if the operator is still being given both constructions.

7 points
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BethBrown0933
Replying to ChenBennett0703

Chen's question is the one I'd ask stores before redrawing everything. We love declaring a packaging change finished while half a cupboard politely disagrees.

4 points
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MeiCarter1038
Replying to ChenBennett0703

Old cartons remain for service orders, Chen. They are a separate stock code but the same outside size. I had only put the size on the exercise sheet.

12 points
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JonasAbbott0024
Replying to MeiCarter1038

Then name both stock codes and which construction each example uses. Does the planned automatic work include those service orders?

14 points
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MeiCarter1038
Replying to JonasAbbott0024

No, service orders remain manually packed. The FR10 proposal is for the current production carton, including part pallets.

2 points
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ChenBennett0703
Replying to MeiCarter1038

That's a teachable boundary already. Show how the operator recognises the excluded carton before it reaches the planned sequence, not only in a footnote beside the support calculation.

5 points
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LucyBrown0915
Replying to MeiCarter1038

And don't let the same external size make them interchangeable in purchasing. We needed the construction identity on the actual purchase line, not just in the study folder.

7 points
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BethBrown0933
Replying to ChenBennett0703

Could they be stored separately at dispatch? Not proposing a grand reorganisation. Just wondering whether you're asking somebody to read two nearly identical codes all day.

15 points
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MeiCarter1038
Replying to BethBrown0933

They already have separate storage positions. The handover between stores and dispatch loses the distinction when it calls both the small case. I'm correcting that example with the trainer.

1 points
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JonasAbbott0024
Replying to MeiCarter1038

What has packaging said about the current carton in the rotated row?

5 points
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MeiCarter1038
Replying to JonasAbbott0024

They reviewed the current section and rejected that row's support as drawn. Tooling has the straight-row candidate, but no release result yet. The exercise now presents that as a comparison, not an approved replacement.

9 points
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LucyBrown0915
Replying to MeiCarter1038

Worth costing the extra pallets while that check is open. Straight rows shouldn't get a free pass on their inconvenient bits either.

10 points
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ChenBennett0703
Replying to MeiCarter1038

Will the trainer include a deliberately wrong carton among the identification examples?

5 points
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MeiCarter1038
Replying to ChenBennett0703

Yes, both stock codes and a mixed incoming stack are in the desk exercise. Thank you, Chen, that exposed a practical handover problem before we got absorbed in the pattern drawing.

12 points
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BethBrown0933
Replying to MeiCarter1038

Useful lesson already. The robot doesn't have to move for somebody to learn why small case isn't an identity.

2 points

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