Carton supports missing from our tidy UR5e pallet picture

GabrielBarnes0540 · 11 Jun 2026, 04:14 UTC

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GabrielBarnes0540
I put the support directions on our alternating case pattern and found rotated cases above gaps. Pretty picture, awkward question. How do I get packaging and gripper release checked together before we accept it?

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LeoBrooks0797
Replying to GabrielBarnes0540

Start by showing the actual case support areas on both layers. Then add the open tool at each release position. Packaging and tooling need to see which spaces they are competing for

10 points
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GabrielBarnes0540
Replying to LeoBrooks0797

We have the support specification. Drawing uses solid boxes everywhere. I'll have packaging mark the real load-bearing areas.

16 points
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JoBarnes0592
Replying to GabrielBarnes0540

Does alternating have to stay, or can the layer pattern change?

24 points
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GabrielBarnes0540
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Can change. Customer specifies the packed product and delivery conditions, not this pattern. We picked it for count.

17 points
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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to GabrielBarnes0540

I would compare an aligned arrangement before buying special tooling. Maybe it loses count. Maybe it saves a lot of awkward handling. You need packaging to assess the full load either way.

12 points
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NoraAli0235
Replying to GabrielBarnes0540

Has anyone priced a different tool opening direction? That might preserve count, if feasible.

9 points
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GabrielBarnes0540
Replying to NoraAli0235

Not yet. I have asked the tool supplier whether there is a suitable alternative. No proposed design back.

13 points
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LeoBrooks0797
Replying to GabrielBarnes0540

Show both ideas in the comparison, without assigning imaginary savings to either. The aligned pattern needs a load assessment; the changed tool needs an actual proposal and access review

24 points
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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to GabrielBarnes0540

Does dispatch move incomplete pallets too? Our last layer was the part everyone forgot when evaluating a very convincing full stack.

21 points
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GabrielBarnes0540
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

Yes, partial orders happen. Thanks Isabel, I'll include them in the handling conditions. The demo plan only described full pallets.

21 points
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JoBarnes0592
Replying to GabrielBarnes0540

And who decides where the final few cartons go when the layer is incomplete?

6 points
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GabrielBarnes0540
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Dispatch currently follows a manual packing instruction. We haven't defined the robot's partial-layer pattern. Another open item rather than leaving it to the operator.

15 points
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NoraAli0235
Replying to GabrielBarnes0540

Keep that instruction available to packaging. It may explain practical constraints the new drawing omitted.

15 points
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LeoBrooks0797
Replying to GabrielBarnes0540

Has the shared drawing come back with the tool open? I'd want to see that before assuming the proposed spacing fixes anything

17 points
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GabrielBarnes0540
Replying to LeoBrooks0797

Yes. Original pattern conflicts with the opening fingers at an end position. Lower-count candidate is now drawn. Neither has a full handling assessment.

20 points
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IsabelAdams0126
Replying to GabrielBarnes0540

Is the lower count reflected in your throughput estimate? People tend to remember the original attractive number long after its layer drawing is withdrawn.

9 points
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GabrielBarnes0540
Replying to IsabelAdams0126

Updated. Planner says it may still work for our demand, but wants the actual release and cycle review before settling that.

13 points
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JoBarnes0592
Replying to GabrielBarnes0540

Any answer on the alternate tool, then?

9 points
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GabrielBarnes0540
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Supplier can propose changed fingers, cost still pending. Packaging needs to see their effect on spacing. We haven't selected between the candidates.

18 points
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NoraAli0235
Replying to GabrielBarnes0540

Who owns keeping those revisions together? A changed finger can invalidate an earlier clearance picture.

25 points

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