Start by showing the actual case support areas on both layers. Then add the open tool at each release position. Packaging and tooling need to see which spaces they are competing for
Carton supports missing from our tidy UR5e pallet picture
GabrielBarnes0540 · 11 Jun 2026, 04:14 UTC
21 replies
We have the support specification. Drawing uses solid boxes everywhere. I'll have packaging mark the real load-bearing areas.
16 pointsDoes alternating have to stay, or can the layer pattern change?
24 pointsCan change. Customer specifies the packed product and delivery conditions, not this pattern. We picked it for count.
17 pointsI would compare an aligned arrangement before buying special tooling. Maybe it loses count. Maybe it saves a lot of awkward handling. You need packaging to assess the full load either way.
12 pointsHas anyone priced a different tool opening direction? That might preserve count, if feasible.
9 pointsNot yet. I have asked the tool supplier whether there is a suitable alternative. No proposed design back.
13 pointsShow both ideas in the comparison, without assigning imaginary savings to either. The aligned pattern needs a load assessment; the changed tool needs an actual proposal and access review
24 pointsDoes dispatch move incomplete pallets too? Our last layer was the part everyone forgot when evaluating a very convincing full stack.
21 pointsYes, partial orders happen. Thanks Isabel, I'll include them in the handling conditions. The demo plan only described full pallets.
21 pointsAnd who decides where the final few cartons go when the layer is incomplete?
6 pointsDispatch currently follows a manual packing instruction. We haven't defined the robot's partial-layer pattern. Another open item rather than leaving it to the operator.
15 pointsKeep that instruction available to packaging. It may explain practical constraints the new drawing omitted.
15 pointsHas the shared drawing come back with the tool open? I'd want to see that before assuming the proposed spacing fixes anything
17 pointsYes. Original pattern conflicts with the opening fingers at an end position. Lower-count candidate is now drawn. Neither has a full handling assessment.
20 pointsIs the lower count reflected in your throughput estimate? People tend to remember the original attractive number long after its layer drawing is withdrawn.
9 pointsUpdated. Planner says it may still work for our demand, but wants the actual release and cycle review before settling that.
13 pointsAny answer on the alternate tool, then?
9 pointsSupplier can propose changed fingers, cost still pending. Packaging needs to see their effect on spacing. We haven't selected between the candidates.
18 pointsWho owns keeping those revisions together? A changed finger can invalidate an earlier clearance picture.
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