The bracket only looks right while our old fixture is holding it

JoFixtures · 16 Aug 2026, 02:39 UTC

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JO
JoFixtures
I'm reviewing old support-bracket records for our FR5 proposal and the fixture seems to get all the credit for alignment while correction gets no explanation; how do I separate fit-up, locating and final acceptance before we inherit that routine? Records review only, no live welding tweaks.

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NinaBrown0936
Replying to JoFixtures

Find out what aligned means on those sheets before treating it as a dimension. A fixture can hold an assembly in a plausible shape while the final released requirement is something the note never measured.

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OmarBarnes0578
Replying to NinaBrown0936

Check that the released inspection identifies its support arrangement and drawing revision. Without those, even the numerical result is hard to compare with the proposed acceptance method.

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NaomiBaker0506
Replying to JoFixtures

And don't let a final pass price the correction worker out of the proposal when that pass followed their work.

25 points
JO
JoFixtures
Replying to NinaBrown0936

Aligned is a tick against fixture seating, not a numerical reading; the released failure has values, and the accepted sheet follows a correction signature on the same traveller.

8 points
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PavelChan1049
Replying to JoFixtures

Then you have a corrected route in the record. Doesn't mean the fixture was useless, but it doesn't show that the new robot can deliver those accepted dimensions without the missing operation.

6 points
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NinaBrown0936
Replying to JoFixtures

Who signed the correction? If they're available, take the original sheets to them with quality rather than ask a general question about what people used to do.

7 points
JO
JoFixtures
Replying to NinaBrown0936

They're still here, and quality has the request to go through that traveller with them; no explanation back yet.

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OmarBarnes0578
Replying to JoFixtures

Incoming preparation is also missing from the account. Is fit-up recorded before the seating tick?

18 points
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NaomiBaker0506
Replying to PavelChan1049

Could you estimate correction effort from the old labour entry meanwhile? Even a range might show whether omitting it changes the proposal.

6 points
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NinaBrown0936
Replying to NaomiBaker0506

Naomi, only if that labour entry actually isolates correction. A shift total with several operations in it would give a very confident-looking wrong estimate.

8 points
JO
JoFixtures
Replying to NinaBrown0936

No incoming measurements and no separate correction time, only the shift total; I've marked both missing, rather than distribute hours across brackets and pretend that answers it.

20 points
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PavelChan1049
Replying to JoFixtures

You can still list the correction as an unpriced dependency. Missing time doesn't make it free, and it doesn't require inventing a number today.

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NaomiBaker0506
Replying to NinaBrown0936

Agreed, Nina; I'd assumed a separate entry, which Jo doesn't have. Keep it unpriced until there's a basis.

11 points
JO
JoFixtures
Replying to PavelChan1049

Proposal now separates the recorded corrected route from the intended uncorrected output; quality and fabrication have the gaps to review, with no fixture change selected from this little stack of ticks.

15 points
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OmarBarnes0578
Replying to JoFixtures

Keep the pending explanation attached to that revision. The clearer description is useful, but the correction method and current-study requirements remain unanswered.

21 points

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