FR10 pilot cost with our own labour left blank

HarishBrown0924 · 30 Aug 2025, 21:37 UTC

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HarishBrown0924
I priced an arm and gripper for spacer unloading, then told my colleague the fixture was only a little job; he asked how little and I had nothing, so what should our first pilot estimate actually contain?

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NaomiBrown0941
Replying to HarishBrown0924

Ask whoever makes the fixture to estimate the work, including changes after the first trial, because little is currently standing in for somebody else's time.

18 points
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HarishBrown0924
Replying to NaomiBrown0941

Our machinist would make it, and I had assumed he would fit it around other jobs.

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AnikaBell0682
Replying to HarishBrown0924

Which other jobs lose that time?

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HarishBrown0924
Replying to AnikaBell0682

Repair work, mostly, which makes the free-time assumption look worse rather than better.

4 points
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JuliaBrooks0848
Replying to HarishBrown0924

Before any fixture gets made, time the manual unload and watch where the fiddly bits are. We had a proposed handling exercise where getting the parts into a sensible starting position took longer than moving them. Lovely robot problem, poor reason to buy a robot.

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NaomiBrown0941
Replying to HarishBrown0924

Include the people needed for the trial too, not just the machining estimate; someone will prepare parts, supervise it and deal with the interruptions.

7 points
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HarishBrown0924
Replying to JuliaBrooks0848

Julia, baseline timing is now part of the proposal; Naomi, I'll name preparation and trial support instead of putting one vague labour allowance.

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LeahAli0234
Replying to NaomiBrown0941

When I get called back to a supposedly simple job, it's usually an awkward part or a recovery nobody taught. Budget a second person learning those cases, not just you becoming very good at rescuing the pilot.

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AnikaBell0682
Replying to HarishBrown0924

And agree the pilot's supervision and safeguarding before treating it as a normal production task.

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HarishBrown0924
Replying to AnikaBell0682

Understood, Anika; this stays a reviewed supervised trial, and Leah's second-person training is in the scope I'm taking to my colleague.

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JuliaBrooks0848
Replying to HarishBrown0924

What result would make you drop it? Put that beside the budget before everyone gets fond of the kit.

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NaomiBrown0941
Replying to HarishBrown0924

Keep the repair-work displacement visible in that discussion as well, since a promising unload time won't give the machinist those hours back.

4 points

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