The rotated cases sit on another box's weak area

SaraBrown0896 · 12 Mar 2025, 07:53 UTC

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SaraBrown0896
Our UR5e layer plan puts rotated case edges over the centres of the cases below. Packaging notes favour edge support. How should we review that alongside tool access?

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TheoArcher0410
Replying to SaraBrown0896

I'd ask packaging to mark the intended load paths through two stacked layers, using the actual filled case construction. I'm no carton designer, but a single top view doesn't show where the upper case transfers its load.

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SaraBrown0896
Replying to TheoArcher0410

Requested that. The existing drawing gives outer dimensions only, with no internal packing details.

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TheoArcher0410
Replying to SaraBrown0896

Those internal details may matter a lot. In our samples the contents were supported by inserts, so the outside rectangle told us very little about where the load reached the base. Packaging had to explain that before the robot review made sense.

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AishaBarnes0605
Replying to SaraBrown0896

Have any packed samples actually deformed, or is this a concern from the drawings? Keep observed damage separate from a support arrangement that has not been assessed.

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TheoArcher0410
Replying to AishaBarnes0605

Fair correction. I was talking about what our case construction required, not evidence that your pattern fails. You're asking for an assessment, and the outcome could be acceptable support, a changed pattern or a changed pack.

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MayaBrooks0823
Replying to SaraBrown0896

Bring the pack designer and tool supplier to the same layout review once those details are available.

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TheoArcher0410
Replying to MayaBrooks0823

Yes, especially if changing gaps helps the gripper release but changes support underneath the next layer. Otherwise each supplier can improve their own drawing and leave you with two versions that no longer agree.

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SaraBrown0896
Replying to AishaBarnes0605

No damaged samples observed. This is a drawing concern before the proposed stack has been trialled.

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SamBrooks0855
Replying to SaraBrown0896

Could a supervised packing trial answer the support question before you invest in the robot sequence? I'd let packaging define the trial rather than assume a hand-stacked example represents shipping conditions.

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SaraBrown0896
Replying to SamBrooks0855

Packaging will define a trial. Integrator has requested the same final layout for the tool review.

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TheoArcher0410
Replying to SaraBrown0896

That sounds like the right people now have the actual question. Ask for the trial result against that specific layout, including what wasn't tested, so nobody later reads a packing trial as proof of every transport condition.

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