neat pallet, awkward carton bottoms

AnilBell0636 · 10 Jan 2026, 09:22 UTC

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AnilBell0636
I'm stopping this UR5e layer drawing going into the quote as an agreed pattern. The rotated cartons straddle a gap right under the bottom seam. Our packaging contact says the support direction matters; the integrator has drawn boxes as solid blocks. Can we settle anything useful with packed samples before another layout meeting?

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AishaAdams0170
Replying to AnilBell0636

Yes, take the actual packed carton and mark where it touches the layer below. Empty boxes can make a poor pattern look surprisingly convincing

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ElliotBaker0509
Replying to AnilBell0636

And price a less clever layer. We got very attached to an extra row until somebody priced the packing bits needed to keep it there.

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ImranBennett0740
Replying to AnilBell0636

Who deals with a carton that arrives turned the wrong way at the infeed?

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AnilBell0636
Replying to ImranBennett0740

Imran, currently the packer turns it. Elliot, a straight layer loses two cartons here. That sounds expensive until I look at the time we're spending defending the rotated one.

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DavidBrown0954
Replying to AnilBell0636

Does the label have to face out? That can rule out a simple turn before anyone argues about grip access.

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AishaAdams0170
Replying to ElliotBaker0509

Elliot's alternative is worth putting alongside it, but don't assume the straight layer is supported properly either. Same packed samples, both patterns.

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ElliotBaker0509
Replying to AishaAdams0170

Fair point. Fewer cartons isn't a structural calculation.

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AnilBell0636
Replying to DavidBrown0954

David, warehouse only needs one label visible from the aisle; they don't require every label outside. Packaging brought packed samples. The straight layer puts the carton seams over a carton below, while the rotated drawing leaves one hanging over the gap. They're taking both away for their load check.

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ImranBennett0740
Replying to AnilBell0636

Anil, that also leaves you some freedom to choose an orientation the packer can recognise without walking around the pallet.

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AishaAdams0170
Replying to AnilBell0636

Did the tool get represented in the sample layout, or only the cartons?

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AnilBell0636
Replying to AishaAdams0170

Only cartons at that visit. The integrator has since added the proposed tool body and its withdrawal to both layouts. The straight option has room in that model; the rotated option needs a different approach as well as packaging work. We've dropped it from this purchase comparison.

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ElliotBaker0509
Replying to AnilBell0636

There goes the prize for most boxes on a screenshot.

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AnilBell0636
Replying to ElliotBaker0509

Packaging has now accepted the straight arrangement for the packed carton we supplied, with their specified layer limit. I've put that exact carton version in the quote request. Tool access still has to be demonstrated, but we're no longer asking suppliers to rescue the other pattern. Thanks for making me price the boring option, Elliot.

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DavidBrown0954
Replying to AnilBell0636

What did the lower carton count do to your collection frequency? Curious whether the saving survived that bit.

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