UR5e vacuum contact over the tape overlap on our actual cartons

JamieArcher0382 · 17 Jan 2026, 03:44 UTC

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JamieArcher0382
The demonstration box had a smooth top. Our packed cartons have a raised tape overlap across a proposed vacuum contact. I have retained ordinary examples, not just the worst one. What should the supplier demonstrate on these?

18 replies

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HassanBaker0443
Replying to JamieArcher0382

Does that overlap stay in one place across your cartons, or is someone going to sort them before the demo?

17 points
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JamieArcher0382
Replying to HassanBaker0443

Its position varies. The retained cartons include the usual variation in tape, printing and board finish. We have not selected a tidy subset or agreed extra preparation.

13 points
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ChloeBaker0483
Replying to JamieArcher0382

Show the proposed contacts on those tops first. Cheap way to find whether avoiding the overlap is a real option or just a nice drawing on the easiest carton.

11 points
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NoraBennett0757
Replying to JamieArcher0382

We had a supplier turn every box so the neat side faced the tool, which worked until our label had to face dispatch; does your lane require a particular carton orientation, Jamie?

-4 points
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GraceBennett0755
Replying to JamieArcher0382

Ask for the complete handling assessment with the representative packed samples, not a seal demonstration alone. The proposed movement, release and response to an unsuccessful pickup belong in it, with the supplier's assumptions about packaging made explicit.

19 points
JA
JamieArcher0382
Replying to NoraBennett0757

Nora, dispatch requires the label facing the aisle. Chloe, the contact map shows the overlap under one proposed contact on several ordinary cartons. Rotating those boxes would conflict with that requirement.

6 points
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HassanBaker0443
Replying to JamieArcher0382

So has the supplier proposed different tooling, or quietly added a person to turn every box back again?

17 points
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JamieArcher0382
Replying to HassanBaker0443

Different contact arrangement proposed, with its limits still to be assessed. I have kept manual turning out of the assumed workflow rather than let it appear as an unpriced demo trick.

16 points
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ChloeBaker0483
Replying to JamieArcher0382

Don't ban it from the comparison entirely if they offer it honestly. Just count the handling and ask dispatch whether it makes any sense.

4 points
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GraceBennett0755
Replying to ChloeBaker0483

I agree with Chloe. A workflow alternative can be legitimate, but it needs its own labour, access and handling review; it cannot be used to claim the unchanged process has passed.

14 points
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JamieArcher0382
Replying to ChloeBaker0483

Fair distinction. I've asked for a separate costed alternative if they want to propose turning, while the revised tool assessment stays tied to our current label orientation.

19 points
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NoraBennett0757
Replying to JamieArcher0382

Did the revised contacts cope with the ordinary tape variation, or are you still waiting for that demonstration?

10 points
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JamieArcher0382
Replying to NoraBennett0757

The supervised comparison completed with the revised arrangement. It handled the retained ordinary finishes in the defined sequence, but one accepted carton construction did not meet the agreed pickup check consistently. That construction remains outside the demonstrated scope.

12 points
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HassanBaker0443
Replying to JamieArcher0382

How would your packer tell that construction apart before it reached the station?

17 points
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JamieArcher0382
Replying to HassanBaker0443

The packaging reference identifies it, but mixed returns lose that separation. Our packer says sorting them would add work, and I have not treated restricted use as a free fix.

10 points
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ChloeBaker0483
Replying to JamieArcher0382

Then put mixed returns in the next cost comparison. They won't politely disappear because the new tool passed the fresh deliveries.

14 points
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JamieArcher0382
Replying to ChloeBaker0483

We are comparing that sorting cost with retaining the current manual transfer for all cartons. No tooling order yet. The successful samples are useful evidence, just not the whole workload.

1 points
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NoraBennett0757
Replying to JamieArcher0382

Thanks for keeping the awkward construction in the update; is the supplier offering another contact approach, or leaving you with that restricted scope?

14 points

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