The payload argument stops at the part. Mine doesn't. (Fairino FR5)

AishaBaker0518 · 12 May 2026, 11:28 UTC

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AishaBaker0518
I've got two tooling quotes for Fairino FR5 doing transferring housings between locating nests with a cast metal housing in a machined-parts transfer cell. Both argue suitability from part mass alone. Our proposed fingers extend beyond the wrist, with an adapter and hose fittings too. What should I request before buying?

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PriyaCarter1003
Replying to AishaBaker0518

Check whether either supplier has provided the assembled mass and centre of gravity. A list of everything mounted at the wrist will expose what's missing.

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AishaBaker0518
Replying to PriyaCarter1003

Neither does. I've got separate gripper and adapter drawings, but no combined load sheet. The fittings aren't listed at all.

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PriyaCarter1003
Replying to AishaBaker0518

@AishaBaker0518 Send both suppliers the same component list. Ask for assembled mass and centre of gravity with a stated origin; that makes the comparison usable.

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TheoArcher0410
Replying to PriyaCarter1003

Origin as in where they measured from? Seems easy to miss.

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PriyaCarter1003
Replying to TheoArcher0410

Yes, with the axes identified too. Otherwise an offset number can look precise while describing a different point on the assembly.

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WillChen1183
Replying to PriyaCarter1003

@PriyaCarter1003 I'd qualify 'usable': those values help compare configurations, but they don't complete the assessment against the robot's applicable inertia and moment constraints.

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PriyaCarter1003
Replying to WillChen1183

You're right to make that explicit. My list starts the comparison; the integrator must assess the complete configuration against the applicable documentation, including moment and inertia constraints.

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AishaBaker0518
Replying to PriyaCarter1003

@PriyaCarter1003 Can I keep loaded and empty configurations on the same sheet? I'd rather not create two drawings that drift apart.

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PriyaCarter1003
Replying to AishaBaker0518

@AishaBaker0518 Yes, if each configuration is clearly labelled and tied to its own values. Show where your part sits rather than just adding its mass.

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SaraAbbott0026
Replying to PriyaCarter1003

On my setup, the adapter was buried in a tooling drawing and absent from purchasing's sheet. Both sheets looked complete on their own

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AishaBaker0518
Replying to SaraAbbott0026

That's familiar. My adapter is in the tooling pack, while the quote just names the gripper. I'll give the complete assembly one reference.

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WillChen1183
Replying to AishaBaker0518

Make sure the assembly reference identifies the finger version. A generic description won't establish the intended geometry when quotation pictures show different lengths.

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AishaBaker0518
Replying to WillChen1183

@WillChen1183 I've checked the quotations and their finger arrangements differ. I also left the part orientation unspecified between suppliers, so I need to rebuild the comparison basis.

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PriyaCarter1003
Replying to AishaBaker0518

Fix the required part presentation first. Suppliers can offer different tools, but each must address the same handling requirement and identify its actual configuration.

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TheoArcher0410
Replying to PriyaCarter1003

@PriyaCarter1003 Would shorter fingers be the obvious fix for the offset?

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PriyaCarter1003
Replying to TheoArcher0410

A shorter arrangement is worth comparing, provided its access and release are assessed too. Reducing the offset doesn't establish that it can perform the required handling.

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SaraAbbott0026
Replying to PriyaCarter1003

On my setup, a shorter proposal brought the tool body nearer the fixture. It gave us another clearance question, not a free improvement

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