Which FR5 quote includes teaching the person who covers breaks?

ImranBennett0740 · 12 Mar 2026, 11:01 UTC

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ImranBennett0740
I cannot compare our boxed-module packing proposals while both say training included but one describes a supplier demonstration and the other two sessions at our bench; presentation fixtures and guarding are now priced separately, and I want the handover cost equally visible.

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GabrielArcher0366
Replying to ImranBennett0740

Who attends each offer, and which jobs are they meant to learn?

8 points
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ImranBennett0740
Replying to GabrielArcher0366

The demonstration is for one visitor at the supplier; the local sessions name our operator and maintainer, but neither proposal mentions break cover or recovery after an interrupted transfer.

9 points
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FionaAli0238
Replying to ImranBennett0740

We brought back one very enthusiastic person from a supplier visit. Then they took leave. The people left behind had photographs of a clean run and a phone number abroad. I'd want somebody less familiar with the cell included in the local handover, with time to ask awkward questions.

19 points
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LouisChan1094
Replying to FionaAli0238

A supplier visit could still be useful for your technical lead. It just shouldn't take the place of operator training at the installed job. Ask for separate prices rather than rejecting a useful activity because it isn't the whole answer.

18 points
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GabrielArcher0366
Replying to ImranBennett0740

Does either offer price making the instructions, or only delivering the session?

20 points
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HanaBrooks0796
Replying to LouisChan1094

Louis is right about the visit. I'd keep it distinct, then describe the actual handover you need: operators, relief cover and maintenance, with agreed normal and interrupted cases. The supplier can price against that instead of promising training as a noun.

4 points
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ImranBennett0740
Replying to GabrielArcher0366

Gabriel, the local offer includes job-specific instructions, while the visit offer only includes its standard guide; Hana, I have sent both suppliers the same handover scope with the visit shown as a separate option.

19 points
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FionaAli0238
Replying to LouisChan1094

Thanks, that clears it up. I wasn't arguing against sending someone to learn from the supplier, Louis. I was arguing against expecting that person to become a complete training department on the flight home.

21 points
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LouisChan1094
Replying to FionaAli0238

Understood. Also allow your own people's attendance time. The supplier can price a session perfectly and your total still assumes nobody has to cover the operator's normal work.

2 points
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ImranBennett0740
Replying to LouisChan1094

Attendance and cover are now in our internal allowance, including the relief operator; the supervisor has agreed who can attend, rather than us guessing that everyone can leave the bench together.

12 points
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HanaBrooks0796
Replying to ImranBennett0740

That's much more usable. Do the revised prices distinguish the first handover from follow-up help if the job changes? You don't need unlimited support, but you do need to know what runs out.

16 points
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GabrielArcher0366
Replying to ImranBennett0740

Have both suppliers answered the revised scope?

20 points
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ImranBennett0740
Replying to GabrielArcher0366

Only the local supplier has answered in full, with a defined follow-up visit and later support charged separately; the other still prices the demonstration alone, so I have left its handover cost unresolved rather than comparing the two headline totals.

5 points

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