our faceplate reject vanishes behind the proposed mask

CalebBrown0928 · 28 Oct 2025, 03:54 UTC

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CalebBrown0928
For this FR5 faceplate lesson I have identified accepted and rejected pieces before touching the images. Now the proposed edge mask hides a known reject as well as the moving glare. I cannot teach that as a successful check.

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OscarAdams0097
Replying to CalebBrown0928

You are right to stop there, because excluding the area containing the required defect is a rather expensive way of making the pictures agree.

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PriyaBennett0742
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Is that edge explicitly included in the inspection requirement?

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CalebBrown0928
Replying to PriyaBennett0742

Yes, Priya. The turned edge is an appearance surface on this faceplate. The reject was judged there, with its identity kept beside the original images.

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EllaAli0207
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Can the camera see the whole edge without the mask?

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LiamArcher0403
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Would another image angle be cheaper than changing the light?

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OscarAdams0097
Replying to LiamArcher0403

Possibly, Liam, but an additional view also brings presentation and teaching work; I would compare it with lighting changes on the same samples rather than choose it from price alone.

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PriyaBennett0742
Replying to EllaAli0207

Ella's visibility question comes first for me. A different threshold cannot recover a hidden surface.

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CalebBrown0928
Replying to EllaAli0207

Ella, part of the edge is hidden by the current viewing angle even without the mask. I should have said that in the opening; the glare is only part of the problem.

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EllaAli0207
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Then the proposed view is incomplete. Ask for coverage of that edge, not a nicer crop.

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LiamArcher0403
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Understood. I was thinking of glare only.

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OscarAdams0097
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Caleb, would a separate approved manual edge check fit your lesson while the camera proposal is being developed, or is the exercise specifically meant to demonstrate full camera coverage?

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CalebBrown0928
Replying to OscarAdams0097

It is meant to explain the proposed camera process, but I can show the approved manual judgement separately. I do not want learners mistaking that demonstration for a finished automated inspection.

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LiamArcher0403
Replying to CalebBrown0928

Different headings for those two parts would help me follow it.

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EllaAli0207
Replying to LiamArcher0403

And different result labels. Manual acceptance should not appear as a camera pass.

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PriyaBennett0742
Replying to EllaAli0207

Keep the original reject in every candidate comparison. Don't replace it with an easier edge defect.

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CalebBrown0928
Replying to PriyaBennett0742

Camera reviewer has proposed a second view, not verified it yet. The known reject remains in the sample set and the first view is labelled incomplete in the teaching draft.

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CalebBrown0928
Replying to EllaAli0207

Liam and Ella, the draft now separates the manual decision from both camera-view results. That should make the missing work clearer without claiming it is finished.

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OscarAdams0097
Replying to CalebBrown0928

When the second-view proposal is tested, include repeat loading by someone other than its designer; otherwise the demonstration may depend on a careful placement your learners have never been shown.

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