Ask packaging to mark required bearing on the filled carton and the supporting layer first. That is inexpensive information compared with committing to tooling around an assumed gap.
the FR5 carton count fits while the support question remains blank
JackArcher0428 · 21 Aug 2026, 01:33 UTC
18 replies
Show placement, opening and withdrawal against the neighbours too. A support that fits under a parked carton can still block the hand getting out.
4 pointsWho controls the part-built pallet at an order change? A completed layer is not the only condition dispatch will handle.
19 pointsIs the alternating pattern required for an established packaging reason, or was it selected to fit a preferred carton count? I would keep that objective visible while alternatives are compared, because the reason for alternating may be lost in the drawing.
10 pointsDispatch chose the count. Packaging has not approved this rotation. The combined view is now back: one loaded carton edge crosses a finger channel in the layer below.
11 pointsDoes packaging require continuous bearing along that edge, or specific supported regions? The distinction could change what modification is even worth drawing.
8 pointsAnd do not call the channel a tooling requirement until the complete exit has been shown. A line labelled clearance does not establish its necessary width or location.
14 pointsCould the two designers mark their requirements on that same view, with the unexplained areas left visibly unresolved?
5 pointsWhat has dispatch observed about partial loads? Ask for actual examples before assuming its preferred full-layer count saves work.
16 pointsPackaging needs bearing across the indicated loaded region. Tooling confirms its current exit uses that channel. Dispatch often moves partial loads, so the maximum full-layer count is not the only operating case.
11 pointsThere are two confirmed requirements now, not necessarily only one solution. A changed tool, packing support or pattern could each affect them, but each option also needs its preparation and partial-load work described so dispatch can compare usable methods.
11 pointsWho owns that comparison? Two suppliers can each propose the cheaper half and leave the workshop buying the missing half later.
7 pointsI would include aligned layers as one candidate, though I don't know whether their stack behaviour suits Jack's packaging. Fewer rotations alone isn't an approval.
11 pointsThe packaging lead owns the comparison with tooling and dispatch. They are pursuing an internal packing change that moves the load away from the channel, with the existing arrangement retained as the baseline.
24 pointsHave they evaluated a filled case with that change yet, or only moved the bearing marks on the drawing?
17 pointsOnly a proposed insert layout so far. No new filled-case result. I have not changed the approved packaging specification or accepted the pallet pattern.
19 pointsKeep the insert cost and packing work beside the claimed carton-count benefit. It may be a sensible option, but it would be misleading to price the original packing operation while assessing the changed internal support.
6 pointsAnd keep partial-load handling in that same comparison. It was the reason the full-layer count stopped being the whole argument.
10 pointsAdd to the discussion
Welcome to Application Robot
Everyone can read the forum. Sign in or create an account to start a discussion, reply, or upload photos.
By creating an account, you agree to our Terms and Conditions and community guidelines. Read our Privacy Policy for how your information is handled.