Our blank projection sheet cannot distinguish length from seating

WillChen1183 · 27 Mar 2026, 01:29 UTC

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WillChen1183
I'm not blaming the proposed FR5 loading yet. These are hand-loaded aluminium blanks, and the sheet only records how far each sticks out. No blank length alongside it. We kept the samples, thankfully. A recent tray comparison taught me how quickly a few good examples become a claim about the whole setup. Here I want to compare the same identified blanks properly before anybody calls the stop unreliable. What should the setter and quality put beside those projection readings?

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SofiaArcher0369
Replying to WillChen1183

Total blank length first. Also where each projection was measured from. Are those retained blanks individually linked to the old readings?

13 points
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WillChen1183
Replying to SofiaArcher0369

Six are linked by their tags. Two loose ones are not, so I've left them out of the old comparison. The sheet says front face for the reference, no drawing view.

20 points
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LuisAdams0173
Replying to WillChen1183

Have the setter identify that face and the seating stop on a sketch. Then measure the retained lengths and compare the repeat seating of each blank. The loose two can be new samples, not magically recovered history.

22 points
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LinBrooks0792
Replying to WillChen1183

We found mixed cut lengths in a box labelled one size. Everybody had stared at the projection because that was the column on the sheet. A second column was cheaper than the stop we were about to order.

-10 points
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SofiaArcher0369
Replying to LinBrooks0792

Did your repeated readings settle once the lengths were known, Lin, or did you also have seating variation?

21 points
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LinBrooks0792
Replying to SofiaArcher0369

Mostly length variation. One blank had a rough cut end as well, so we still had a seating problem to sort out. That's why I wouldn't subtract two numbers and declare the whole batch explained.

7 points
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AmaraBrooks0861
Replying to WillChen1183

Have the ends of Will's retained blanks been checked? The sheet can grow a length column and still leave out what touches the stop.

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WillChen1183
Replying to AmaraBrooks0861

Setter has identified the front reference and stop. The six retained lengths form two groups, matching two saw batches. One blank also has a raised edge on its end; quality is checking that against the blank preparation requirement.

5 points
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LuisAdams0173
Replying to WillChen1183

That raised edge belongs with its own sample identity. Don't correct it and then use the changed blank to explain the old reading without saying what changed.

3 points
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WillChen1183
Replying to LuisAdams0173

The raised edge was recorded before the blank was corrected to the preparation requirement. The new check sheet now carries blank identity, length, end check and the agreed projection reference. Repeats are under way with both length groups.

23 points
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AmaraBrooks0861
Replying to WillChen1183

Does the same blank return to the same projection now? That's the bit I am waiting to hear.

3 points
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SofiaArcher0369
Replying to WillChen1183

And do the different lengths account for the difference between the two groups? Useful to keep that separate from Amara's same-blank question.

21 points
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WillChen1183
Replying to AmaraBrooks0861

Amara, the repeated readings for each checked blank are consistent with the agreed method. Sofia, the longer group projects further by the measured length difference. The corrected blank now repeats too, but its earlier condition stays in the notes.

15 points
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LinBrooks0792
Replying to WillChen1183

Thanks for the two answers. That is much clearer than stop problem fixed. Are the incoming saw batches going to stay identified?

4 points
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WillChen1183
Replying to LinBrooks0792

Yes. Stores and the setter agreed the batch labels and the preparation check before issue. This gives the loading study a usable starting point; it does not authorise automatic loading.

23 points
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SofiaArcher0369
Replying to WillChen1183

Has the study owner replaced the original projection-only table, or are both still circulating?

23 points

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