How do I show packaging the gaps our FR5 fingers need?

AmyArcher0380 · 27 Nov 2025, 02:53 UTC

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AmyArcher0380
Our alternating FR5 pallet pattern rotates some packed boxes across gaps under their marked support edges, and the tool designer says those gaps are for withdrawal. How do I get both people reviewing the same problem?

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ElliotBaker0509
Replying to AmyArcher0380

I'd put the layer below into the drawing, with the required bearing areas and finger route visible. The lovely top view is hiding the argument underneath.

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FionaBarnes0586
Replying to AmyArcher0380

Have packaging and tooling even got the same drawing revision?

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AmyArcher0380
Replying to FionaBarnes0586

No, Fiona, packaging has the earlier pattern and tooling has the revised one. Elliot, neither copy shows the lower layer properly.

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DavidBennett0780
Replying to AmyArcher0380

Get those copies aligned before the meeting, Amy. And bring the packer, because any change to the layer pattern will also change how they recognise and finish a partial pallet.

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HazelAllen0310
Replying to ElliotBaker0509

Would a section through the disputed box help? I find a plan view difficult to read when one team's gap is another team's missing support.

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ElliotBaker0509
Replying to HazelAllen0310

Yes, Hazel. I'd still want the full pattern beside it; an excellent local section can miss what happens to the rotated box elsewhere in the layer.

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FionaBarnes0586
Replying to AmyArcher0380

Amy, does the packed box have the same support requirement in both orientations?

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AmyArcher0380
Replying to FionaBarnes0586

It has a preferred bearing direction, Fiona. Packaging wants the marked edges supported in either orientation, and is marking those on the current pattern for tooling.

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DavidBennett0780
Replying to AmyArcher0380

That gives the packer something concrete too. Otherwise preferred direction sounds like an optional preference they can ignore on the last few boxes.

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HazelAllen0310
Replying to DavidBennett0780

David, I would ask packaging to supply the wording for that part. Amy has said where it wants support, but not what handling variations it permits.

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AmyArcher0380
Replying to HazelAllen0310

Packaging is doing that, Hazel. It has also asked tooling to compare a lower-count pattern, but that is only an option at present.

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ElliotBaker0509
Replying to AmyArcher0380

Include the extra pallets in that option's cost. I've seen a cheaper tool look less cheap once dispatch has to handle more completed loads.

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FionaBarnes0586
Replying to ElliotBaker0509

And who prices the partial-pallet work?

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AmyArcher0380
Replying to FionaBarnes0586

Our dispatch lead will price that with the packer, Fiona. The integrator is combining the support sections and withdrawal views; no pattern has joint approval yet.

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DavidBennett0780
Replying to AmyArcher0380

Leave the eventual partial-pallet method in that joint review. Calling the remainder manual still leaves the packer needing an assessed access arrangement and a clear picture of what goes where.

5 points

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