Which contact leaves the ring on our FR5 bezel samples?

OliverBarnes0537 · 30 Apr 2026, 20:11 UTC

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OliverBarnes0537
Our polished bezel samples have a ring after the bench transfer. Supplier proposes softer FR5 pads. We haven't located when the ring appears, agreed its acceptance, or checked the proposed pads releasing.

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AishaBarnes0605
Replying to OliverBarnes0537

Inspect an identified bezel before pickup, after holding and after placement. Include the receiver contact. A mark first noticed at the end doesn't automatically belong to the fingers.

2 points
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OliverBarnes0537
Replying to AishaBarnes0605

Quality has accepted and rejected surface examples now. There are two marks: short contact patches after holding, then a continuous ring after placement. Ring is rejected. Patches need closer comparison.

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MeiAli0255
Replying to OliverBarnes0537

Give the receiver designer that ring location with the bezel identity, because the new pads will not remove a separate contact at placement.

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ChloeAbbott0048
Replying to OliverBarnes0537

Are the short patches actually damage, or could quality accept them? I'd rather know that before choosing softer material just because its first photograph looks kinder.

-7 points
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DineshCarter0995
Replying to ChloeAbbott0048

And compare retention and release with the proposed material. A surface improvement is useful, but it still has to leave the bezel in the receiving tray correctly.

17 points
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OliverBarnes0537
Replying to ChloeAbbott0048

Patches accepted under the agreed finish requirement. Supplier's softer-pad sample has less visible contact, but it sticks briefly at release. Existing pad releases cleanly in that comparison.

7 points
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AishaBarnes0605
Replying to OliverBarnes0537

Then why keep the softer pad as the favourite? It is solving an accepted appearance difference and has introduced another handling question.

13 points
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ChloeAbbott0048
Replying to AishaBarnes0605

Aisha, I wouldn't choose it yet either, but it may still have another benefit. Oliver, did the supplier propose softer pads only for these marks, or for some other agreed part variation too?

15 points
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OliverBarnes0537
Replying to ChloeAbbott0048

Only for the marks. No other benefit claimed for our job. I've taken it off the preferred option while they explain the sticking sample.

18 points
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MeiAli0255
Replying to MeiAli0255

What did the receiver inspection find at the ring location?

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DineshCarter0995
Replying to OliverBarnes0537

Keep that sticking attempt identified as well. If the supplier returns another demonstration, it should address the same failure rather than quietly use a different bezel.

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OliverBarnes0537
Replying to MeiAli0255

Receiver insert has a raised circular edge at the contact height. Designer says it doesn't match the intended insert drawing and is arranging a correctly made sample. The softer-pad failure stays in the comparison.

15 points
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AishaBarnes0605
Replying to OliverBarnes0537

That gives the ring a specific contact to investigate. Does the replacement insert preserve the intended location, or are they clearing the ring by making the whole nest loose?

15 points
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OliverBarnes0537
Replying to AishaBarnes0605

Preserves the locating surfaces. The raised edge is outside those intended contacts. Quality and tooling will compare the replacement with the same bezel samples.

-1 points
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ChloeAbbott0048
Replying to OliverBarnes0537

Include whoever normally exchanges the receiver. I watched a good sample fixture become a bad production habit because its designer always seated the removable insert with a little twist that never made it into the instruction. Not saying yours needs that trick. Quite the opposite: find out whether it seats and locates properly when someone follows the intended changeover, before the careful designer's result becomes everybody else's promise.

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MeiAli0255
Replying to ChloeAbbott0048

Chloe's changeover check belongs with the surface comparison, since the installed contact position is what you are trying to repeat.

12 points
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OliverBarnes0537
Replying to ChloeAbbott0048

Replacement insert checked with the normal changer. It locates as intended. Retained bezels no longer pick up the rejected ring through placement and release with the existing pads.

0 points
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DineshCarter0995
Replying to OliverBarnes0537

Did that include the agreed normal bezel variation, not only the part that showed the original ring?

9 points
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AishaBarnes0605
Replying to OliverBarnes0537

And what's the disposition of the old insert? It should not become the spare that restores the original problem.

-2 points
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OliverBarnes0537
Replying to AishaBarnes0605

Normal sample range included, Dinesh. Old insert is isolated for the tooling return, Aisha. We're retaining the existing pad candidate for the wider trial; softer pads aren't being ordered. Thanks for making us inspect the receiving contact.

8 points

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