How should I challenge this FR10 vacuum demo with our taped cartons?
AlistairBlair · 3 Dec 2025, 01:39 UTC
12 replies
Send identified examples of the actual packed cartons and the range of surfaces they will receive. Ask for the proposed tool to be assessed across pickup, transfer and release. The empty smooth box leaves both the surface and the load unrepresented.
6pointsI've offered filled samples from both board types, including the ordinary taped seam, rather than ask them to repeat the smooth-box trick.
19pointsWere the cartons in their demonstration prepared by the supplier? That matters if their proposal assumes someone will present yours with a clear patch in a particular position.
17pointsAlso ask what happens when pickup is not established or the carton is unsuitable. A successful lift clip does not explain what the operator will be asked to do with the awkward carton.
13pointsHarish, yes, the supplier placed its own sample by hand with the smooth face under the cups; our cartons arrive with the seam position varying.
10pointsThen leave that variation in the sample set. We had a trial start avoiding a taped seam as though the seam had volunteered to move. Identifying the filled samples helps stop the next video becoming a different box.
17pointsJack, agreed. There may be an intentional presentation step in a workable proposal, but its labour and limits need to be included rather than smuggled into sample preparation.
20pointsAlistair, is the receiving station shown in the proposal? I would want the release and carton support there considered before calling the transfer demonstrated.
10pointsOnly a destination outline, Jane; I have asked for the receiving support and release arrangement with the revised trial scope, and no longer describe this as a demonstrated transfer.
6pointsDoes that scope keep both board types, or is the supplier proposing to limit the application to one? Either answer changes your production comparison.
7pointsBoth remain requested, Harish; the supplier wants to assess the samples before saying whether one needs a different approach, so we have no agreed scope limit yet.
20pointsKeep the unsuitable-carton route on the list when that answer arrives. A restricted scope can be workable, but the person feeding it needs a clear way to recognise and handle what falls outside it.
7pointsDiscussion closed
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