How do I preserve the physical reference behind our FR5 trim images?

TimCampbell · 19 Jun 2026, 06:22 UTC

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TimCampbell
Streak moves when the trim plate is reseated. Folder calls it a scratch. What physical reference should precede our planned FR5 camera tuning?

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FionaChen1195
Replying to TimCampbell

An identified retained plate with quality's finding at the corresponding surface region. Are yours still available?

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TimCampbell
Replying to FionaChen1195

Three retained. Images identify plates, not the claimed damage locations. Quality hasn't examined those locations yet.

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JoCarter1027
Replying to TimCampbell

Use the appearance requirement for that examination. The camera folder cannot supply its own ground truth. I would keep a region unclassified when there is no settled physical judgement, rather than forcing every example into pass or fail.

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OwenBrown0921
Replying to JoCarter1027

I had a manually accepted cover labelled scratched from its bright streak in another folder. The contradiction was useful evidence about our labelling, not evidence that every bright streak on every cover was harmless.

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FionaChen1195
Replying to OwenBrown0921

Owen, useful distinction. Tim, keep the original labels with their source, outside the confirmed tuning examples.

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PavelBell0614
Replying to TimCampbell

Will whoever normally seats the plates take part in the capture comparison?

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TimCampbell
Replying to PavelBell0614

Yes, our inspection operator. Quality found one actual line, but its acceptance classification is still pending.

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JoCarter1027
Replying to TimCampbell

Tim, did quality map that physical line to the corresponding image region? A line on the plate may not be the bright band that originally attracted attention.

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TimCampbell
Replying to JoCarter1027

Mapped separately. Actual line is near an edge; bright band crosses the middle on that image.

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OwenBrown0921
Replying to TimCampbell

That gives the imaging comparison two different observations to follow. Reducing the band is not automatically helpful if it also hides the edge feature, although the product judgement on that feature is still needed.

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FionaChen1195
Replying to TimCampbell

Record holder revision and camera settings. Otherwise reseating comparisons can quietly become different-setup comparisons

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PavelBell0614
Replying to TimCampbell

Any agreed reference classification yet, Tim?

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TimCampbell
Replying to PavelBell0614

Quality rejects the edge line under our requirement. Other queried regions remain unclassified. No camera threshold decision yet.

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JoCarter1027
Replying to TimCampbell

Keep an accepted reference too when one is available. You need to investigate false rejection as well as detection of that identified reject feature. Your current three plates do not establish the breadth of production variation.

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TimCampbell
Replying to OwenBrown0921

Accepted-reference selection added to the plan. Thanks Owen; we will track line visibility, not simply reward the cleanest-looking image.

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OwenBrown0921
Replying to TimCampbell

That is a clearer comparison. I would still keep tuning and later validation examples distinguishable, so the next report states whether the method is being adjusted or independently checked.

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