The saved pocket cannot tell me where our FR5 sleeve actually is

RobinAdams0164 · 30 Jul 2026, 16:04 UTC

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RobinAdams0164
My FR5 pick-place-advance sequence completes uninterrupted tray transfers for our planned 162 sleeves. Stop between those actions and the saved pocket can disagree with the physical state. I need a recovery design before normal production, not another assumption that the counter tells the whole story.

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MinaArcher0424
Replying to RobinAdams0164

Map each interruption boundary against source occupancy, whether a sleeve may be held, destination occupancy and saved progress. For each, identify what evidence can confirm the state and what must remain unresolved before an authorised recovery decision.

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RobinAdams0164
Replying to MinaArcher0424

Place before saving is the case I missed. My index still points at the old destination although the sleeve may already be there.

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MinaArcher0424
Replying to RobinAdams0164

Keep that case separate from pick-before-save, where the sleeve may be held. A single increment or repeat rule cannot resolve both. Review the proposed states with controls and the people responsible for the approved recovery procedure.

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RobinAdams0164
Replying to MinaArcher0424

I've drafted both cases and a hold for uncertain occupancy. Controls review is pending. The draft does not authorise repeating a pick or place from the saved index alone.

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MinaArcher0424
Replying to RobinAdams0164

Include tray replacement and restart with retained data in that review too; they can invalidate the relationship between a saved pocket and the tray now present, even when the index arithmetic is correct.

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