UR5e demo using a tray we would have to refill by hand

WillArcher0400 · 15 Jan 2026, 03:09 UTC

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WillArcher0400
The UR5e demonstration used a neat dedicated tray; the other candidate unloaded into our existing mixed-condition workshop trays. I can see the preparation difference without another video, but I cannot yet cost it. Should we compare both on our trays, or treat the dedicated tray as a separate complete workflow?

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LiamBennett0751
Replying to WillArcher0400

Compare the whole workflow if the dedicated tray is a serious option, because forcing both onto today's tray could reject a useful process change before its preparation and changeover costs are understood.

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WillArcher0400
Replying to LiamBennett0751

That is the choice I was struggling with. Our existing trays circulate through another process, so using the dedicated version would add a transfer unless that process changed too.

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JoBrown0940
Replying to WillArcher0400

Price the transfer with the person stuck doing it.

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TobyBell0666
Replying to WillArcher0400

And the tray supply and storage, Will; a demonstration tray does not establish how many usable trays arrive at the station or who replaces a damaged one during an order.

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AlexAli0211
Replying to WillArcher0400

I would still ask both suppliers what their demonstrations left to the operator. The untidy-tray candidate might look more representative and still have someone rescuing awkward parts off camera.

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JoBrown0940
Replying to AlexAli0211

Alex, fair point. Our tray doesn't automatically mean our actual work.

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WillArcher0400
Replying to AlexAli0211

Both suppliers have accepted a comparison using the same spacer order and our packer. One will show the dedicated-tray workflow, the other our circulating trays. Preparation, interruptions and the unfinished end of the order are included.

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LiamBennett0751
Replying to WillArcher0400

Keep the two scope descriptions visible when you compare the results, since a supported workflow change might be worthwhile but should not be mistaken for an arm winning the same task unaided.

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TobyBell0666
Replying to WillArcher0400

Has the downstream process owner agreed to consider a tray change, or are you costing a transfer that everyone hopes will disappear later?

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WillArcher0400
Replying to TobyBell0666

No downstream change is agreed. The dedicated-tray option includes the manual transfer in our costing. Its supplier proposed removing that task later, but we have not used that suggestion as a saving.

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AlexAli0211
Replying to WillArcher0400

That's useful. We had an improvement described as temporary extra handling for so long that nobody owned removing it. Eventually it was simply part of the job, without ever appearing in the buying comparison.

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WillArcher0400
Replying to WillArcher0400

The completed comparison favours our circulating trays for this order. The dedicated tray gave smoother handling, but preparation and returning the spacers to our normal flow consumed the gain. Both supplied workflows have now been reviewed with the packer.

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JoBrown0940
Replying to WillArcher0400

So are you buying, or just dropping the dedicated-tray option?

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WillArcher0400
Replying to JoBrown0940

Dropping that workflow from this purchase comparison, not placing an order yet. The remaining candidate still needs its full commercial and integration review. Thank you Liam; treating the transfer as real work let us make a useful decision.

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TobyBell0666
Replying to WillArcher0400

Keep the dedicated-tray figures available for a future downstream change, with today's transfer cost attached; the result may change if the work changes, but it should not change merely because someone reuses the smooth video.

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