Why does the tooling quote assume our mill has no door?

NinaAli0240 · 8 Mar 2025, 21:04 UTC

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NI
NinaAli0240
I'm collecting quotes for an FR10 exchanging polymer blanks. The arm can touch the fixture point in the supplied view, but the complete gripper is absent and the door is drawn shut. Has anyone a sensible review checklist that includes the bits we will actually use?

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JO
JoFixtures
Replying to NinaAli0240

Start with the loaded tool at pickup and withdrawal, including the door in its parked position; the wrist reaching a dot is only the beginning.

14 points
NI
NinaAli0240
Replying to JoFixtures

I've requested those views. The supplier says the gripper is still a concept, so its body dimensions are not settled. That seems a large unknown to omit from an arm recommendation.

23 points
JO
JoFixtures
Replying to NinaAli0240

Use a conservative proposed envelope for screening and label it provisional, then repeat the assessment with the final tool; don't silently turn a concept into confirmed clearance.

17 points
NI
NinaAli0240
Replying to JoFixtures

They've provided a maximum proposed tool envelope. I can now see why the empty wrist view looked generous. The adapter and valve block occupy much of that apparent space.

20 points
JO
JoFixtures
Replying to NinaAli0240

Have the supplier check the intermediate poses too, since clear endpoints can still have an obstructed route between them.

21 points
CA
CallumCarter0969
Replying to NinaAli0240

What did you actually find against the door: a clash, or clearance that has not been checked?

17 points
JO
JoFixtures
Replying to CallumCarter0969

Useful distinction; a crowded drawing is a reason to investigate, not a collision report.

18 points
HA
HarishAllen0315
Replying to NinaAli0240

Does the envelope include the polymer blank after removal? I mean the orientation it has on withdrawal, not just its position in the fixture.

3 points
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NinaAli0240
Replying to CallumCarter0969

Unchecked clearance, not a confirmed clash. Thank you for catching that. The held blank is shown at pickup only; I've asked for its withdrawal orientation and the intermediate poses before reporting a result.

18 points
RI
RickShift
Replying to NinaAli0240

Where does the operator stand when checking the first part? Add that before the next review

21 points
JO
JoFixtures
Replying to RickShift

And include maintenance access, but get those spaces from the people using the machine rather than inventing comfortable-looking rectangles.

9 points
NI
NinaAli0240
Replying to JoFixtures

Operators and maintenance have marked their access on the layout. The supplier found a route that appears feasible with the proposed envelope, but the tool dimensions remain provisional. Our recommendation will carry that condition explicitly.

17 points
JO
JoFixtures
Replying to NinaAli0240

Tie that condition to a required final review before purchase acceptance; otherwise provisional has a habit of disappearing when the drawing gets forwarded.

7 points
HA
HarishAllen0315
Replying to JoFixtures

Is the final review assigned to a person and a tool revision? A condition without that link may survive in the document but never get acted on.

19 points

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