Our UR5e handover calls two different spacer stops an empty pocket

DavidBrown0954 · 31 Dec 2025, 22:55 UTC

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DavidBrown0954
I sat beside our relief operator instead of taking over when he called. He read the prompt correctly. Trouble is, our sheet says empty pocket for both a genuinely empty supply position and a stopped transfer with the spacer's location uncertain. We already keep an uncertain job separate from an unsent one in another application. I've managed to lose that distinction in my own training sheet. Who should help me rewrite the decision at this point, before I teach it to anybody else?

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RobinBell0686
Replying to DavidBrown0954

Start with whoever wrote the two prompts. Your operator has found a real ambiguity, not failed a memory test.

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LucyBrown0915
Replying to RobinBell0686

The prompt author may only own the screen. Get the person who defined the sequence involved too. Otherwise you could end up with two clearer names and the same unclear next step.

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DavidBrown0954
Replying to LucyBrown0915

That's two people here, Lucy. Controls wrote the sequence and I shortened their wording for the sheet. Thought I was making it easier to read.

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ThomasAli0190
Replying to DavidBrown0954

I've done that with a bench instruction: removed the qualifying words, made the sentence lovely, made the decision wrong. Can your relief operator tell you which bit he looked at before calling?

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RobinBell0686
Replying to LucyBrown0915

Fair point about the sequence owner. I'd still want the operator in that conversation, not handed the finished wording afterwards.

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DavidBrown0954
Replying to ThomasAli0190

Thomas, he looked for the spacer, then the sheet. The sheet gave him no way to say he couldn't establish where it was. Controls and the relief operator have now walked through the two cases with me. We've separated replenishment under the existing instruction from an uncertain stopped transfer that needs the designated support person. No new recovery shortcut.

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LucyBrown0915
Replying to DavidBrown0954

Put the support contact beside that second case. And check the person covering your break has the same contact. Your mobile number is a very fragile piece of infrastructure.

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ThomasAli0190
Replying to DavidBrown0954

Did the revised sheet survive someone reading it without you pointing at the right line?

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DavidBrown0954
Replying to ThomasAli0190

Yes. Two relief operators used the revised sheet in the supervised handover exercises and both picked the correct route for each case. One spotted an old copy beside the tray trolley, so that has gone too. Thanks for suggesting I watch the reading, Thomas; that was more useful than asking whether the sheet was clear.

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RobinBell0686
Replying to DavidBrown0954

The old trolley copy would have caught me.

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