Which drawings would connect carton support with gripper access? (Fairino FR10)

AaronAdams0088 · 17 Jul 2026, 06:07 UTC

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AaronAdams0088
I'm reviewing an alternating layer pattern for our planned palletising sealed product cartons with Fairino FR10 in a small finished-goods dispatch area. Although the drawing fits the cartons neatly, a labelled dispatch carton has a preferred support direction and some rotated positions lie above gaps. I'd like a joint review of packaging support and tool access before accepting it.

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AaronBrown0871
Replying to AaronAdams0088

Does your layer drawing show the load-bearing carton edges and pallet deck beneath them? Add those, then overlay the complete gripper outline.

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AaronAdams0088
Replying to AaronBrown0871

@AaronBrown0871 My current layer drawing shows carton footprints and a tool centre point only. It hasn't incorporated the support direction specified in the carton documentation.

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AaronBrown0871
Replying to AaronAdams0088

@AaronAdams0088 Build that combined drawing for packaging and your integrator. Include a repeated, unrotated layer as a simpler candidate; it may suit the support direction better.

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NinaChan1110
Replying to AaronBrown0871

@AaronBrown0871 Don't let simpler sound like approved. An unrotated layer still needs its load and stability assessed with the actual contents.

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AaronBrown0871
Replying to NinaChan1110

@NinaChan1110 Agreed; I meant a comparison option. Packaging must assess both arrangements with the specified cartons and contents, including support and stability.

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AnnaChan1112
Replying to AaronBrown0871

Doesn't alternating the carton directions strengthen a stack, or is that assumption too general here?

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AaronBrown0871
Replying to AnnaChan1112

@AnnaChan1112 Too general. The arrangement changes where loads pass through the cartons. Your packaging reviewer needs the actual construction and support geometry to judge it.

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AaronAdams0088
Replying to AaronBrown0871

I've overlaid the layers and can identify carton edges positioned above gaps. I can now show packaging the actual support condition that concerned me.

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CalebBennett0754
Replying to AaronAdams0088

@AaronAdams0088 I had a separate dispatch setup where the carton top view omitted the pallet's deck gaps. Including the deck geometry exposed additional positions for packaging assessment

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AaronAdams0088
Replying to CalebBennett0754

Did you tie the pattern to a pallet specification? Ours just says pallet size, which now seems a bit thin.

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CalebBennett0754
Replying to AaronAdams0088

Specify the deck arrangement as well as the footprint. Two pallets with the same outside size needn't provide the same support underneath

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AaronBrown0871
Replying to AaronAdams0088

@AaronAdams0088 For access, show the whole tool beside neighbouring cartons at the corner placements. The centre mark won't reveal body or finger overlap.

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AaronAdams0088
Replying to AaronBrown0871

@AaronBrown0871 With the complete outline added, my offline layout shows a tool overlap with a neighbouring carton at one corner. I'll identify that specific position for the integrator's assessment.

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NinaChan1110
Replying to AaronAdams0088

@AaronAdams0088 Include approach and release, not just the final pose. Clearing the outline at the destination wouldn't establish access to it.

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AaronAdams0088
Replying to NinaChan1110

@NinaChan1110 I'll request an offline assessment across all layers, including approach and release at that corner, rather than investigating an unreviewed pattern by manual jogging.

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AnnaChan1112
Replying to AaronAdams0088

Should an incomplete final layer be included in the pattern drawings, or is the full-layer review sufficient?

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AaronBrown0871
Replying to AnnaChan1112

@AnnaChan1112 If your process can produce one, include it. Packaging needs to assess the loads dispatch will actually handle, including permitted partial arrangements.

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AaronAdams0088
Replying to AaronBrown0871

Could I ask packaging which partial arrangements they'd permit, instead of assuming every possible missing box is acceptable?

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AaronBrown0871
Replying to AaronAdams0088

Yes. Get the allowed arrangements defined, then have your integration plan work within them. Unassessed partial loads shouldn't inherit the full-pattern decision.

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CalebBennett0754
Replying to AaronBrown0871

On my setup, that gave dispatch something specific to recognise. A picture of one perfect full pallet hadn't answered their partial-load question

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