Two promising demos, two different tray setups (Fairino FR10)

SofiaBaker0456 · 4 Apr 2026, 17:31 UTC

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SofiaBaker0456
We're considering Fairino FR10 alongside other candidates for sorted tray loading with a machined puck in a small production workshop, with 23 planned. Although both demonstrations looked promising, one used a tidy tray and the other used our awkward workshop tray. That difference makes it hard to tell what the videos actually establish about the candidates.

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WillChen1183
Replying to SofiaBaker0456

Have you listed tray adjustments separately from missed pickups? Comparing those observations could show how much of the apparent transfer performance depended on preparation.

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SofiaBaker0456
Replying to WillChen1183

@WillChen1183 The notes are scrappy, but they distinguish the tray adjustments that aren't obvious in the footage. They also show most missed pickups occurring after tray replacement across the candidates.

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WillChen1183
Replying to SofiaBaker0456

@SofiaBaker0456 A shared tray trial sounds useful, with ordinary tray replacement included. Set acceptable placement and operator involvement in advance, and log both against each candidate.

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JaneCarter1032
Replying to WillChen1183

We had a separate transfer application where the locating step was awkward, but the continuous run looked fine. A tray replacement by another operator exposed it.

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SofiaBaker0456
Replying to JaneCarter1032

How did you attribute the locating work in your comparison? Our discussion repeatedly stalls over whether it belongs against the robot or the fixture.

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JaneCarter1032
Replying to SofiaBaker0456

In my own comparison, we included the cost in the complete package and identified its source as fixture work. How we categorised it didn't change the need to fund it.

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WillChen1183
Replying to WillChen1183

I'd also keep the gripper identical to make the comparison fair. It takes another variable out while you investigate tray location.

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AnilBrown0897
Replying to WillChen1183

Same gripper, unfair adapter? That's still a skewed comparison if the mounting suits one arm better.

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WillChen1183
Replying to AnilBrown0897

You're right, identical tooling was too broad a rule. Match the gripping requirement, list adapter and tuning differences, and use the proposed tools when sharing one would skew the comparison.

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AnilAli0201
Replying to WillChen1183

@WillChen1183 Does that mean a candidate can arrive with a custom fixture and still be compared? I'm trying to understand where the boundary goes

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WillChen1183
Replying to AnilAli0201

It can, provided the fixture belongs in the purchase scope. Use equivalent incoming samples and acceptance requirements, and account for fixture cost and changeover effort.

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SofiaBaker0456
Replying to WillChen1183

@WillChen1183 The samples I've retained represent ordinary variation in our batch. We didn't select rejected workpieces specifically to make the demonstration difficult.

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AnilBrown0897
Replying to SofiaBaker0456

Then include those alongside the easy ones. A comparison made entirely of awkward samples could misrepresent the mix just as badly as the polished demo.

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SofiaBaker0456
Replying to AnilBrown0897

We also encounter empty pockets in normal work. I'd like to include that condition in the comparison without anybody creating an unplanned fault while the equipment moves.

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WillChen1183
Replying to SofiaBaker0456

@SofiaBaker0456 Have the equipment lead define the test and expected response. The empty pocket should be prepared under safe access conditions, not created during motion.

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SofiaBaker0456
Replying to WillChen1183

@WillChen1183 We've a way forward: a shared tray trial with placement and operator-help limits agreed first. Choosing Fairino FR10 stays conditional on that comparison, rather than the existing clips.

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WillChen1183
Replying to SofiaBaker0456

@SofiaBaker0456 That gives the comparison a clear purpose. Keeping the purchase conditional fits what the existing videos can actually tell you.

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