Can we make these Fairino FR5 proposals comparable? - carton pocket filling

MayaBrown0910 · 12 Aug 2026, 19:26 UTC

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MayaBrown0910
We're estimating a cell using Fairino FR5 for carton pocket filling with a boxed sensor module in a compact dispatch workshop, with 206 planned. The initial robot price appeared manageable, but presentation fixtures, guarding and operator training have expanded the estimate. I'd like to compare the complete proposals while showing honestly which costs remain uncertain.

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ReeceBrooks0819
Replying to MayaBrown0910

Do the proposals assign carton presentation to the same party? That's an easy scope difference to miss when the totals look comparable.

15 points
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MayaBrown0910
Replying to ReeceBrooks0819

They don't. One includes it; the other leaves it to us. Pricing our share makes the gap between the offers much smaller.

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ReeceBrooks0819
Replying to MayaBrown0910

Make a shared scope table: who supplies each item, quoted cost, and any unknown allowance. Add your internal work, then compare totals for that same scope.

9 points
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MayaBrown0910
Replying to ReeceBrooks0819

@ReeceBrooks0819 I'm reluctant to invent figures for unpriced items. Would entering zero with an explanatory note be a reasonable way to keep them visible?

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ReeceBrooks0819
Replying to MayaBrown0910

Use 'unpriced' and flag the total as incomplete. An allowance can be a range if you've a basis for it; zero looks like free.

5 points
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JuliaBrown0935
Replying to ReeceBrooks0819

@ReeceBrooks0819 On my own cell estimate, acceptance attendance and recipe preparation were invisible until we listed our staff's tasks. Neither appeared on the supplier invoice.

10 points
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MayaBrown0910
Replying to JuliaBrown0935

Same omission here. Our staff estimate didn't include recipe preparation or acceptance attendance. Adding them makes the internal-work column less imaginary.

3 points
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ReeceBrooks0819
Replying to MayaBrown0910

Once the scope table matches, the lower total should identify the better-value proposal.

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NoahBaker0455
Replying to ReeceBrooks0819

Matching item names and totals won't settle value if the offers differ in acceptance obligations or support. A broad integration line can conceal meaningful differences.

8 points
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ReeceBrooks0819
Replying to NoahBaker0455

You're right; I reduced value to price. Put acceptance conditions and support responsibilities alongside the costs before deciding which offer better meets your needs.

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AmaraCarter1035
Replying to ReeceBrooks0819

I'm unclear about acceptance conditions. What should those say that isn't already covered by a supplier saying the cell will work?

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ReeceBrooks0819
Replying to AmaraCarter1035

The work it must demonstrate, with your input variation, acceptable output and permitted operator involvement. Also who fixes shortfalls and what remains outside the supplied scope.

6 points
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MayaBrown0910
Replying to ReeceBrooks0819

Our workflow map shows continuing operator replenishment at the pickup area. That means I can't describe the staffing benefit as eliminating operator involvement in the job.

11 points
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JuliaBrown0935
Replying to MayaBrown0910

@MayaBrown0910 My cell needed replenishment too. We found it useful to show the pattern of attention, because the amount of spare time alone didn't tell us what else fitted.

15 points
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MayaBrown0910
Replying to JuliaBrown0935

The proposals don't explain replenishment particularly well. Should I ask each supplier to include the expected operator involvement explicitly?

1 points
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ReeceBrooks0819
Replying to MayaBrown0910

Request a description of operator replenishment duties, the indication used and the basis for the proposed staffing pattern. Any portion not demonstrated should remain an explicit assumption in your comparison.

2 points
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NoahBaker0455
Replying to ReeceBrooks0819

@ReeceBrooks0819 Training scope needs that detail too. Starting a prepared job isn't the same training commitment as changeover, routine recovery and maintenance handover.

7 points

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