Our FR5 upper layer approval assumes a different first layer

SofiaAli0195 · 17 Mar 2026, 06:21 UTC

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SofiaAli0195
I checked the actual first layer beneath our FR5 alternating pattern. Its gaps differ from the repeat-layer sketch used for support approval. Some required carton bearing strips are therefore unsupported before tooling even considers finger withdrawal.

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ElliotAdams0161
Replying to SofiaAli0195

Give packaging the actual first layer and packed carton section together. That approval needs revisiting.

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SofiaAli0195
Replying to ElliotAdams0161

Packaging has withdrawn the old approval for this arrangement. The carton construction is correctly identified; the lower support layout used in the review was wrong.

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CarlaChan1097
Replying to SofiaAli0195

Which layer was the tool exit checked against? A corrected support drawing will not help if tooling continues to use the other lower layer.

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TobyArcher0405
Replying to SofiaAli0195

Does dispatch need this first layer, or can its pattern change?

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SofiaAli0195
Replying to CarlaChan1097

Carla, tooling used the same incorrect repeat layer. Toby, dispatch can consider a changed first layer, but packaging must assess its support on our actual pallet as well as what it supports above.

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RosaAli0205
Replying to SofiaAli0195

Who is combining those decisions into one revised drawing?

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ElliotAdams0161
Replying to SofiaAli0195

Keep both original drawings marked rejected. Otherwise the familiar one finds its way back into the quote.

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SofiaAli0195
Replying to RosaAli0205

Integrator owns the combined revision, with packaging, tooling and dispatch contributing their parts. They are comparing a revised first layer and a wholly unturned stack, including ordinary partial orders.

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TobyArcher0405
Replying to SofiaAli0195

Have either candidate's actual finger exits been returned yet?

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SofiaAli0195
Replying to TobyArcher0405

Not yet. Packaging accepts the support in the unturned candidate, but its tool exit and dispatch comparison remain open. I have not treated that support decision as approval of the whole stack-building job.

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CarlaChan1097
Replying to SofiaAli0195

Include the first placement and each subsequent stage in that return. A completed stack drawing cannot show whether a tool is trapped partway through building it.

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