How do we know the lower panel stayed in the stack?

EllaArcher0381 · 17 Apr 2025, 22:07 UTC

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EllaArcher0381
I'm helping with an FR5 enclosure-panel loading trial. Supplier sent a vacuum trace and a picture of one steel panel on the cups. Our panels come off a stack, though. I don't know much about separating sheets yet. What should I ask them to show on the next trial?

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VictorBell0620
Replying to EllaArcher0381

A pickup from the stack and a count of what lands in the nest, not another picture of vacuum holding one panel.

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EllaArcher0381
Replying to VictorBell0620

Should that count be a sensor check? They've only proposed vacuum confirmation so far.

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VictorBell0620
Replying to EllaArcher0381

Vacuum isn't a sheet count.

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EllaArcher0381
Replying to VictorBell0620

Understood. I'll ask what they propose for detecting two sheets rather than suggesting hardware myself.

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VictorBell0620
Replying to EllaArcher0381

Ask how they'll test it with an actual pair as well, or you'll only see it correctly count singles.

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ImranBrown0914
Replying to EllaArcher0381

Our operator used to peel a second sheet off at the receiving table and carry on. Nobody thought to count that as a failed pickup because the next station got one sheet eventually. Then we tried to automate the table and discovered how much of the separation job his hands had been doing. Ask whoever currently handles yours what they stop to fix. You'll probably get more out of that chat than the tidy demonstration. Not saying you have the same problem, but I wish we'd asked sooner.

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VictorBell0620
Replying to ImranBrown0914

Exactly, write those interventions into the trial results instead of letting them disappear between successful picks.

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VictorBrooks0794
Replying to EllaArcher0381

Who clears a detected pair on your shift?

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VictorBell0620
Replying to VictorBrooks0794

That needs an answer before handover too.

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EllaArcher0381
Replying to ImranBrown0914

No answer yet. I've asked the project lead to include recovery in the trial plan. Thanks Imran, I'll talk to our current bench operator too.

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NinaCarter1023
Replying to EllaArcher0381

Has anyone shown you the panel entering the nest? Our thin lids sagged at the free edge. They were single picks all right, just not a shape the next fixture liked.

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EllaArcher0381
Replying to NinaCarter1023

Only resting in it afterwards. The video skips the approach. I'll request a side view that includes the free edge.

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VictorBell0620
Replying to EllaArcher0381

They've skipped half the interesting bits, then.

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ImranBrown0914
Replying to VictorBell0620

Don't assume they hid a failure. Might just be someone filming the arm because that's the expensive bit. Send a little shot list: stack edge, supported panel, entry, release. Saves another round of guesswork.

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