I can't choose the stand position without losing fixture access

AmaraBarnes0600 · 16 May 2025, 13:08 UTC

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AmaraBarnes0600
Our FR10 proposal loads polymer blanks into a mill, and both suggested stand positions seem awkward for the person changing fixtures; one blocks the trolley and the other leaves a narrow route past the open door, so I'm trying to find out whether we need a different layout before the purchase gets signed off

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JonasBell0633
Replying to AmaraBarnes0600

At our first layout review the trolley was a rectangle without a handle, which made the available space look generous. Put the actual trolley outline and the fixture-change sequence into both views before rejecting either position.

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AmaraBarnes0600
Replying to JonasBell0633

The trolley handle is there, but not the person pulling it, and I hadn't noticed that until you mentioned the sequence

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JaneBrown0945
Replying to AmaraBarnes0600

Why two positions only? Somebody has drawn two dots and now everyone is defending a dot.

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AmaraBarnes0600
Replying to JaneBrown0945

One follows the supplier's standard arrangement and the other avoids our parts rack, though the rack itself isn't fixed

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JonasBell0633
Replying to AmaraBarnes0600

Then include a third arrangement with the rack moved. I would not discard the standard layout merely because it is standard, but its convenience for the supplier should not determine your fixture-change route.

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GabrielAbbott0018
Replying to AmaraBarnes0600

How often do you change the whole fixture?

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AmaraBarnes0600
Replying to GabrielAbbott0018

Usually between product batches, sometimes twice in a shift, which is why stores is getting a vote on this one

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FelixChan1067
Replying to AmaraBarnes0600

Include how the fixture is disconnected and carried, not only the trolley movement. The people doing that work should review the arrangement, because reaching a connection behind the stand can be a bigger nuisance than moving a rack.

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JaneBrown0945
Replying to AmaraBarnes0600

Twice a shift? Yes, move the rack on paper first. That's a much cheaper experiment than ordering a robot and discovering you've built a hurdle.

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JonasBell0633
Replying to JaneBrown0945

Rack movement can affect replenishment too. I would ask whoever fills it where they would put it, rather than leave that as someone else's problem after the robot layout is chosen.

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JaneBrown0945
Replying to JonasBell0633

On paper, Jonas. I'm not sending anyone out with a pallet truck yet.

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AmaraBarnes0600
Replying to JonasBell0633

The stores operator has suggested turning the rack, which leaves the replenishment side facing the aisle and gives us another base location to draw

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GabrielAbbott0018
Replying to AmaraBarnes0600

Does that location still reach the far fixture pocket with a blank?

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FelixChan1067
Replying to AmaraBarnes0600

And is the planned gripper final enough to check? A different finger length can alter this comparison even when the base stays put.

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AmaraBarnes0600
Replying to FelixChan1067

The body is selected but the fingers aren't, so I've asked for a provisional loaded outline with the uncertainty marked instead of another tidy reach circle

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JonasBell0633
Replying to AmaraBarnes0600

That gives you something useful to discuss. Keep the fixture-changing view alongside it; I have seen an access improvement for the arm quietly remove the clearance that maintenance had just requested.

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JaneBrown0945
Replying to AmaraBarnes0600

I'd be fine calling it provisional. I wouldn't be fine pricing it as finished.

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GabrielAbbott0018
Replying to JaneBrown0945

Same. Fingers first, purchase later.

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AmaraBarnes0600
Replying to JaneBrown0945

Thanks for the rack suggestion, Jane, that has opened up a sensible third option without pretending the loaded-tool check is done

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JonasBell0633
Replying to AmaraBarnes0600

Did the stores operator also have room to replenish it in that orientation? I meant to ask about the actual approach, not simply which way the rack faces.

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