A fixed camera, small presentation changes, very different streaks

NoraAdams0148 · 24 Apr 2026, 02:35 UTC

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NoraAdams0148
We're planning planning camera inspection of reflective parts, with Universal Robots UR5e presenting a reflective aluminium bezel to a fixed camera in a robot-presented camera station. Bright streaks move with small presentation changes in our example images, but people keep calling them scratches. We haven't commissioned the cell. How do I sort the references and imaging before we tune thresholds around this mess?

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HanaAllen0274
Replying to NoraAdams0148

Check whether the suspected scratches were confirmed on physical samples under the agreed appearance procedure. Link each image to its sample identity and inspection result first.

5 points
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NoraAdams0148
Replying to HanaAllen0274

@HanaAllen0274 Some labels came from the pictures alone. We still have the samples, but those labels aren't tied to physical inspection results. That's irritatingly circular.

9 points
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HanaAllen0274
Replying to NoraAdams0148

Mark those labels uncertain and have the samples inspected properly. Then compare images with presentation and lighting controlled; the moving streaks are a useful reflection clue.

7 points
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SofiaBrooks0804
Replying to HanaAllen0274

That clue needs a limit: presentation can also change how a real scratch appears. Movement in the image isn't enough to reclassify the sample as acceptable.

6 points
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HanaAllen0274
Replying to SofiaBrooks0804

Correct. I meant a reason to investigate the imaging, not a new defect label. Physical acceptance stays with the agreed inspection method.

10 points
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LuisBrown0956
Replying to HanaAllen0274

Should uncertain images be treated as acceptable, or kept somewhere separate while their status is established?

9 points
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HanaAllen0274
Replying to LuisBrown0956

Keep them explicitly undecided, with the sample link. Don't use them as confirmed examples of either class until the physical review settles them.

18 points
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NoraAdams0148
Replying to HanaAllen0274

Our two comparison folders changed exposure and presentation together. I can't tell which change made the images look better. That comparison needs a caveat too.

8 points
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TheoArcher0410
Replying to NoraAdams0148

@NoraAdams0148 On my inspection setup, a folder called 'better lighting' also contained easier samples. The folder name was doing a lot of unearned work.

15 points
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NoraAdams0148
Replying to TheoArcher0410

@TheoArcher0410 The reference problem is clearer, but I still can't judge inspection performance from our example images. The physical labels and image comparisons need more work.

9 points
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HanaAllen0274
Replying to NoraAdams0148

The remaining physical-label and comparison work explains the open judgement. Clearer uncertainty doesn't yet establish inspection performance.

6 points

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