Does either supplier actually own the completed assembly assessment, including your adapter, or are they both expecting you to finish it?
our fr5 tooling quotes leave the customer adapter out of the assessment
AaronChan1045 · 23 Feb 2026, 00:26 UTC
16 replies
The first explicitly leaves our adapter to us, while the second includes an engineering review but has not stated what information it needs or who signs off its completed proposal; neither has received an order.
12 pointsAsk the first to price the missing assessment and the second to define its included review, with the adapter drawing and complete tool arrangement supplied to both; ownership should not depend on who happened to buy one component.
22 pointsPut the actual arrangement in front of them. The housing mass alone leaves out the tool and how far the load acts from the wrist, and the intended movement matters too. Ask for the applicable limits and their assessment assumptions, not just another total labelled suitable.
10 pointsAaron, is that adapter an existing item somebody has measured, or a design somebody still needs to finish?
23 pointsAn existing adapter with its drawing available, although the proposed hose bracket is not yet on that drawing; I have asked our tooling owner to provide the fitted arrangement rather than letting either supplier assume the bracket away.
10 pointsThat bracket can affect the space as well as the load. Has anyone shown the extended fingers and hoses beside the actual inspection nest?
24 pointsPavel's question matters for cost too. On a review I helped with, the adapter drawing was complete but the drawing supplied with the quotation wasn't the one the toolmaker was using. Both people honestly said they had the adapter drawing. We lost time comparing load figures before noticing the different stand-off. I'd put the drawing revision alongside each assumption here, and leave the unfinished bracket visibly unfinished until its owner settles it.
0 pointsDavid, did the stand-off change for access or was it just an old drawing picked by mistake?
8 pointsThe proposal also needs to state which tool opening and workpiece arrangement it assesses; otherwise a complete list of component identities can still accompany an incomplete operating case.
8 pointsOur tooling owner has supplied the adapter revision and a bracket arrangement for assessment, with the extended fingers shown at the nest; Alex, access is not yet accepted, and Theo, both suppliers have the loaded and open-tool arrangements rather than only the closed grip.
2 pointsPavel, it had changed for access. Purchasing sent the earlier revision, while the toolmaker worked from the later one. We corrected the proposal to the intended assembly before continuing the assessment; the earlier figures weren't reused.
23 pointsThe first supplier has added a priced assembly assessment, and the second has named the engineer completing its included review with the remaining inputs listed; our comparison now includes that work, although neither proposal has a completed suitability result.
10 pointsHas either engineer asked to change the fingers now they've seen the nest?
8 pointsThe second has proposed shorter fingers and is checking whether their release still clears the nest; I have kept that as a separate candidate, so its possible load benefit is not being attached to the original fingers' access drawing.
10 pointsWould the shorter fingers still let maintenance reach the tool connection, Aaron? Worth drawing the hand access before that candidate gets too comfortable on the shortlist.
24 pointsDiscussion closed
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