Can I compare FR5 positions before the gripper outline arrives?

JonasBennett0720 · 7 Mar 2026, 16:44 UTC

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JonasBennett0720
Our supplier wants a preferred FR5 position for removing aluminium blanks. The sketch reaches the fixture but omits the complete gripper and open door. I can mark the machine access we need, but I cannot see how to choose between two tool-free drawings without guessing.

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OliverBrooks0798
Replying to JonasBennett0720

Have they said what tool information they need before comparing the positions, Jonas, or are they treating that as work after selection?

9points
JO
JonasBennett0720
Replying to OliverBrooks0798

Work after selection. Toolmaker has a candidate assembly, but its outline has not reached the layout person.

9points
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JaneBrown0945
Replying to JonasBennett0720

Get those two talking. There is already a candidate to draw, so this isn't a philosophical argument about designing the tool before choosing the arm.

7points
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MayaParts
Replying to JonasBennett0720

You could buy a bounded access study next rather than a stand, if the supplier needs payment for the combined comparison.

-1points
JO
JonasBennett0720
Replying to JaneBrown0945

They have agreed a combined study and received the candidate tool outline. The first position puts its rear fitting into the door area. The second needs more space beside the machine.

5points
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ThomasChan1060
Replying to JonasBennett0720

What currently occupies that extra space?

6points
JO
JonasBennett0720
Replying to ThomasChan1060

Fixture trolley waiting position. The setter will not lose it without another usable place.

2points
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OliverBrooks0798
Replying to JonasBennett0720

Could the receiving layout change to release that place, or would it simply move the obstruction to the next task?

13points
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JaneBrown0945
Replying to OliverBrooks0798

Try it on the floor plan with the setter before writing 'trolley elsewhere'. Elsewhere is where every inconvenient thing goes to disappear from a quote.

14points
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MayaParts
Replying to JaneBrown0945

And if it needs a layout change, include that in the second option's price rather than treating it as customer preparation nobody costs.

14points
JO
JonasBennett0720
Replying to JaneBrown0945

The setter identified an alternative trolley position, but it shares the route used to replenish the receiving trays. We are comparing the actual exchanges, not assuming both can occupy it together.

17points
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ThomasChan1060
Replying to JonasBennett0720

Who does both exchanges on the ordinary shift?

3points
JO
JonasBennett0720
Replying to ThomasChan1060

Usually the same operator. Their walkthrough found the tray replenishment would have to stop during fixture exchange. They can live with that for our batches, and planning is costing the interruption.

15points
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MayaParts
Replying to JonasBennett0720

Then you have a defined tradeoff to price. The first position is rejected; the second still has tool-access and operating costs to settle before purchase.

2points

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