A polymer-blank approach without the gripper body

JonasBell0633 · 27 Jul 2025, 01:23 UTC

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JO
JonasBell0633
During a previous tooling review we found the service connections had been omitted from the outline. This FR10 unloading proposal is missing the entire gripper body and open machine door. I would like a useful initial access check before we pay for detailed layout work around the proposed base.

16 replies

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HazelBrown0919
Replying to JonasBell0633

Ask for a complete provisional tool assembly and the actual door position first. You can reject an obvious collision without pretending you've finished the whole motion review.

18 points
JO
JonasBell0633
Replying to HazelBrown0919

The toolmaker has supplied body, fingers and adapter. Our fitter is checking the open-door stop against the model, because the installed machine does not open as far as the catalogue view.

6 points
AI
AishaBrooks0866
Replying to JonasBell0633

Then don't let purchasing compare base prices from that catalogue position. I've had a cheap option evaporate as soon as someone measured the actual machine.

23 points
JO
JonasBell0633
Replying to AishaBrooks0866

Base pricing is provisional. The measured door position overlaps the proposed tool approach, so the integrator is comparing orientation changes before recommending a location.

22 points
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IsaacBaker0520
Replying to JonasBell0633

If an orientation change moves the tool connections toward the door, include their full outline too. On ours the fingers fitted and the fitting behind them did not, which was rather late entertainment for the toolroom.

19 points
HA
HazelBrown0919
Replying to JonasBell0633

Could moving the base be another option, if the orientation change alone doesn't work? I'd keep both routes open until the toolmaker explains what can change.

14 points
JO
JonasBell0633
Replying to HazelBrown0919

It could. No alternative base proposed yet; we are first checking the two allowed tool orientations with the complete connection outline included.

14 points
EM
EmmaBarnes0550
Replying to JonasBell0633

If they do propose a base move, involve the maintainer before choosing it. Our survey found a side cover that had to slide before lifting away, so its service space was larger than the open-cover picture suggested.

8 points
AI
AishaBrooks0866
Replying to JonasBell0633

Who is paying for the next comparison? Useful to agree now, otherwise two suppliers may both wait for the other to draw it.

6 points
JO
JonasBell0633
Replying to AishaBrooks0866

We have agreed a paid layout-review stage with the integrator, using the toolmaker's defined assembly. The deliverable includes approach, withdrawal and the identified machine access requirements.

11 points
HA
HazelBrown0919
Replying to JonasBell0633

That sounds like a sensible scope. Does it include the held blank in both orientations, not just the empty tool?

6 points
JO
JonasBell0633
Replying to HazelBrown0919

Yes, the blank and its intended contact positions are included. One orientation looks promising in the initial comparison, but the withdrawal and service-access checks are not complete.

19 points
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IsaacBaker0520
Replying to JonasBell0633

Keep that candidate's drawing reference on the result when it comes back. Otherwise the toolmaker may receive a conclusion about a version they have already changed.

17 points
AI
AishaBrooks0866
Replying to JonasBell0633

And keep promising out of the purchase approval box. It's useful progress, not a final location yet.

21 points
JO
JonasBell0633
Replying to AishaBrooks0866

Understood. Our review sheet names the candidate and lists the outstanding checks. The stand supplier is waiting for that review, not treating the initial picture as permission to manufacture.

22 points
EM
EmmaBarnes0550
Replying to JonasBell0633

Will the setter see the final candidate as well as the maintainer? Fixture changes may need a different route from the service work already identified.

19 points

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