Why does this FR5 pallet review show empty cartons again?

JonasAbbott0024 · 26 Jun 2025, 13:06 UTC

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JonasAbbott0024
Our supplier's alternating pattern uses empty carton models. The real dispatch carton has an insert supporting the load at its ends, and some rotated ends land over gaps. I have asked for the filled construction but the next drawing only changed the colour. How should I set up a review that considers support and finger withdrawal together? I can compare the drawings, but I am not the person who can decide whether the packaging will tolerate those gaps.

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AaronArcher0349
Replying to JonasAbbott0024

Get the packaging owner to specify the required support on a section through the filled carton. Then overlay that on the proposed lower layer. Top views hide this.

15 points
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JonasAbbott0024
Replying to AaronArcher0349

Packaging has supplied the insert drawing. Two end supports. The rotated carton in the corner misses one of them in the proposed stack.

19 points
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AaronArcher0349
Replying to JonasAbbott0024

Put that exact position in the review, with the tool fingers present. I cannot tell whether the gap can be reduced without their withdrawal view.

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JuliaBrown0935
Replying to JonasAbbott0024

Bring dispatch into it. Fewer cartons may be acceptable, but they need to see the handling and order consequences before everyone agrees a reduced layer count on their behalf

7 points
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JonasAbbott0024
Replying to JuliaBrown0935

Dispatch says fewer per pallet is possible. They want a comparison of pallet movements and storage space. Tool supplier wants more space beside the corner carton, not less.

13 points
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DanLoop
Replying to JonasAbbott0024

Then compare an alternative arrangement explicitly, including the actual tool and packaging revisions; a sequence of individually reasonable drawing changes can leave nobody responsible for the combination

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JuliaBrown0935
Replying to DanLoop

Yes, one owner for the combined drawing. Also keep the original count in the comparison so dispatch can see what the support and access constraints cost them

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JonasAbbott0024
Replying to DanLoop

Designer is comparing a lower-count non-rotated arrangement. Packaging wants a loaded trial before approving it. The original pattern is no longer the assumed answer.

19 points
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JonasAbbott0024
Replying to JuliaBrown0935

Thanks, Julia, for getting dispatch into this. They found a collection route the proposed base would block. That is now included in the layout comparison too.

19 points
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AaronArcher0349
Replying to JonasAbbott0024

Has packaging accepted the proposed support for the trial, or are they still specifying it? I'd distinguish permission to test from approval of the finished pallet.

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