FR10 spacer pickup improved, then the replacement tray missed

LucyAbbott0045 · 15 Aug 2026, 23:44 UTC

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LucyAbbott0045
I added the locator. A few supervised spacer-unloading runs improved, then a replacement tray missed again. How do I report the improvement without claiming a finished fix?

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RobinArcher0425
Replying to LucyAbbott0045

Can you identify the two trays and the run conditions, including which pocket missed after replacement?

20points
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JaneCarter1032
Replying to RobinArcher0425

Keep the locator and program revisions with them. A before-and-after account needs to say what else changed.

20points
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RebeccaArcher0430
Replying to LucyAbbott0045

And report the replacement miss in the opening update, not only as a later comment people may overlook.

24points
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LucyAbbott0045
Replying to RobinArcher0425

Trays identified. Same program after the locator change, miss at an outside pocket on the replacement. Added that limitation to the opening.

12points
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MinaBarnes0598
Replying to LucyAbbott0045

Compare the tray-to-locator contact and pocket positions under the inspection procedure before changing pickups again; same external outline doesn't establish the same seated geometry.

5points
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RobinArcher0425
Replying to LucyAbbott0045

Was the missed pocket visibly offset, or is that still a possibility to inspect?

12points
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LucyAbbott0045
Replying to RobinArcher0425

Still a possibility. The photo shows the miss, not a measured offset. Both trays retained for tooling.

8points
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JaneCarter1032
Replying to LucyAbbott0045

Who can keep the normal tray changeover represented in that inspection? A carefully seated tray may not reproduce what the loader normally does.

22points
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RebeccaArcher0430
Replying to JaneCarter1032

Let the regular loader show the seating process too, without turning the inspection into a lesson where they simply copy the designer's hands.

16points
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LucyAbbott0045
Replying to RebeccaArcher0430

Loader and tooling checked it together. The replacement tray catches on the new locator before reaching its intended support. Original tray doesn't. Tooling is comparing both against the tray drawing.

17points
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MinaBarnes0598
Replying to LucyAbbott0045

That suggests an interface problem, but keep the drawing comparison ahead of deciding which item to alter.

21points
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RobinArcher0425
Replying to LucyAbbott0045

Did the loader believe the caught tray was fully seated?

19points
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LucyAbbott0045
Replying to RobinArcher0425

Yes. It felt stopped, which they took as seated. The tray is within the specified edge geometry; the locator proposal had assumed a sharper clearance at that edge.

9points
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JaneCarter1032
Replying to LucyAbbott0045

Then the intended acceptance range matters to the redesign. Do not just clear this one retained tray and forget the rest of the permitted geometry.

0points
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RebeccaArcher0430
Replying to LucyAbbott0045

And the loading check needs to distinguish the intended support from simply meeting a stop, once tooling has a reviewed arrangement.

12points
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LucyAbbott0045
Replying to JaneCarter1032

Tooling has withdrawn that locator detail and proposed clearance covering the drawing's allowed edge geometry. The first improvement remains real for the original tray; it never proved this range.

18points
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MinaBarnes0598
Replying to LucyAbbott0045

Good reason to retain both trays for the next supervised comparison, including the one that originally behaved well.

9points
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RobinArcher0425
Replying to LucyAbbott0045

Has the revised locator been made yet, or is this still the drawing proposal?

9points
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JaneCarter1032
Replying to RobinArcher0425

And who reviews any pickup adjustments before that comparison? I would keep the program unchanged unless the responsible person approves a reason to change it.

9points
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LucyAbbott0045
Replying to JaneCarter1032

Revised locator made and statically checked with both retained trays; they now reach the intended support. Integrator retained the reviewed program for the next supervised comparison. No run result from the revision yet.

9points

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