I kept a trial alive by doing the awkward preparation myself, then discovered I was its biggest running cost. Time the whole job against hand packing before making another guide. Include your own interruptions and help.
How many more guides does this FR5 refill trial deserve?
TobyBaker0492 · 10 Jun 2026, 21:19 UTC
18 replies
I have transfer times only. We straighten the refill and load the guide before timing. I can see how that comparison flatters the robot.
18 pointsAre those ten packs a typical order size? The preparation and changeover may dominate a small order even if the repeated transfer is efficient.
7 pointsYes, small mixed orders are normal. Sometimes larger, but I cannot promise a long run of the easiest pack.
19 pointsWould a narrower trial for one repeat pack still be worth comparing, if those orders occur often enough? I would keep that separate from the idea that every new shape has to join the project.
4 pointsOnly use real orders for that comparison. I once made a wonderful production schedule by adding together work that arrived months apart. The spreadsheet loved it; dispatch didn't.
15 pointsAlso count changing back to manual packing. If your guides occupy the shared bench, clearing them away belongs to this process even though it happens after the last successful robot transfer.
9 pointsThey do occupy the bench. Operators move them aside for other orders. I've been treating that as general tidying rather than trial labour.
8 pointsWhat do the operators prefer about the current manual arrangement? Their answer could help distinguish a useful improvement from a working motion with an inconvenient surrounding job.
9 pointsThey can switch pack shapes immediately. They also like seeing the whole order on the bench. No search for the right guide or a separate stack waiting to be straightened.
4 pointsThat flexibility has value even if it is awkward to turn into one number. I'd compare the real order sequence and record the waiting and changeovers, rather than forcing every benefit into seconds per transfer.
19 pointsWho would maintain the guides if you stopped being available? That question is worth putting beside the timing result; a trial relying on one enthusiast is hard to hand over.
19 pointsNo named cover. We have compared a real mixed-order sequence now, including preparation and clearing. Manual packing used less staff time and kept the bench available. I am proposing we stop this trial.
2 pointsDid anyone who funds the work disagree with stopping, or is the remaining argument mainly the effort you've already spent?
14 pointsMostly me, honestly. Supervisor agreed with the comparison. I have been reluctant to put my own name under a stop decision after promoting the idea.
17 pointsThe comparison and the retained drawings are useful results of that effort. You can explain why the transfer worked and why this particular packing process still did not justify continued support.
14 pointsDecision made: ending this refill-packing trial. Guides and notes will be stored, bench returned to mixed orders. Thanks Felix for making me count the preparation I was doing without noticing it.
5 pointsKeep the actual order mix with the report. It will help anyone considering another application understand what made this decision sensible, rather than reading it as a verdict on every pouch-handling job.
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