The extra clamp proposal is based on an inspection tick

NinaCarter1023 · 12 Jan 2025, 14:05 UTC

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NinaCarter1023
I found our old bracket sheets while preparing the UR5e fixture handover. Every in-fixture check gets a tick, but the released inspection has handwritten angle corrections. Someone has proposed another clamp on the upright. I would like to understand what we measured before buying a more complicated version of the same problem.

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SofiaBell0630
Replying to NinaCarter1023

What does the tick actually certify? It could mean the component touched the stops, or it could represent a measured dimension, and those lead to quite different discussions about that extra clamp.

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NinaCarter1023
Replying to SofiaBell0630

The shift lead says it means the upright was against the fence before welding. No angle measured there. I had read the heading as a dimensional check.

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SofiaBell0630
Replying to NinaCarter1023

Then the old records don't show that the finished assembly was in tolerance while restrained. I'd correct that interpretation in the handover before it becomes the reason everyone quotes for changing the fixture.

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TobyArcher0405
Replying to NinaCarter1023

Were released angles measured before or after the handwritten corrections?

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SofiaBell0630
Replying to TobyArcher0405

That ordering matters too, especially if corrected means the part was physically adjusted rather than the measurement entry amended.

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NinaCarter1023
Replying to TobyArcher0405

We have a first angle and a final angle on some sheets. They did physically straighten those parts. Other sheets only have the final number, which is less useful than I hoped.

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SofiaBell0630
Replying to NinaCarter1023

Use the paired entries to describe what is known, and flag the others as incomplete. Whoever designs the trial should see that uncertainty rather than an average combining different stages.

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ElenaAli0253
Replying to NinaCarter1023

Another clamp might change behaviour, but a fit-up tick is a remarkably thin basis for specifying one. Has anybody looked at the incoming bend angles and locator condition? Those belong in the investigation too.

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AmaraCarter1035
Replying to SofiaBell0630

An average final angle would hide the correction workload anyway, even with perfect arithmetic. Include how many parts needed somebody at the straightening bench.

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SofiaBell0630
Replying to AmaraCarter1035

Yes, and who will own that work if it remains after automation. It shouldn't vanish from the staffing plan just because the welding step gets a robot.

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NinaCarter1023
Replying to ElenaAli0253

I've removed the claim that the fixture holds finished tolerance. We are asking quality and welding to plan paired measurements and review incoming parts before the fixture order. Nobody has agreed to the extra clamp yet.

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SofiaBell0630
Replying to NinaCarter1023

Can the same review define a released-part acceptance method that the next shift can follow? That would make the new records considerably more useful than the inherited ticks.

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