our fr10 loading sketch loses the air fitting at the doorway

OwenArcher0399 · 2 Feb 2026, 09:07 UTC

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OwenArcher0399
I have the real door opening and full finger dimensions for our brass-blank loading proposal, but the tool supplier has left the rear air fitting out of the model. It sits beside the narrowest part of the entry.

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NickBailey
Replying to OwenArcher0399

A dimensioned fitting envelope should be enough to reject an obvious clash now. You don't need a beautifully modelled thread to know it's in the doorway.

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FelixBrown0893
Replying to NickBailey

Include the hose leaving it as well. I have a complete-looking tool drawing on another job where the solid parts are all there and the connections apparently travel through another dimension.

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IslaBlair
Replying to OwenArcher0399

Is the fitting position fixed, or one of several proposed arrangements?

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TonyBailey
Replying to NickBailey

Stores once supplied our approved fitting with a longer swivel body, so I'd want the exact supplied part behind that envelope.

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OwenArcher0399
Replying to IslaBlair

Isla, the supplier has offered a straight fitting or an elbow, neither selected. Tony, their parts list just says air fitting, so I've asked for both complete options

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DavidAli0258
Replying to OwenArcher0399

Model them as two alternatives, including the hose departure and permitted movement. Otherwise someone may borrow the elbow's small projection for the straight fitting's convenient hose route and approve a tool that doesn't exist.

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WillCarter1009
Replying to OwenArcher0399

Could the supplier photograph each proposed assembly beside a scale? That would help you spot omitted bits while the proper dimensions arrive.

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ZaraBaker0482
Replying to WillCarter1009

Photographs would help explain the assembly, Will, but the integrator still needs dimensions for the complete approach and retreat. Owen also needs the door in its actual operating position, not merely its maximum possible opening.

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OwenArcher0399
Replying to ZaraBaker0482

The door measurement is from its normal stopped position, Zara Baker. Supplier photos show the elbow projects less sideways but sends the hose towards the moving finger linkage

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AaronAli0175
Replying to OwenArcher0399

Ask the tool supplier to resolve that routing. A smaller outside dimension is no saving if the hose interferes with the tool's own movement. Include open and closed finger positions in their returned assembly views.

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ZaraBarnes0569
Replying to OwenArcher0399

Could another rear connection position be available? Asking, not suggesting you move it yourselves. Sometimes there's an option absent from the sales picture, sometimes there really isn't.

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RobBailey
Replying to OwenArcher0399

Who updates the spares list after an option is selected?

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PriyaArcher0394
Replying to AaronAli0175

We had a setter change a tool with no clear place to put the removed one, and the hose got trapped under it; include the changeover handling as well as its travelling shape.

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FelixBrown0893
Replying to PriyaArcher0394

Priya, fair point. The replacement job is easy to forget when everyone's staring at a doorway collision, but you still have to get the thing off the wrist without abusing its connections.

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OwenArcher0399
Replying to ZaraBarnes0569

Supplier found a rear-port option that routes clear of the linkage. Both candidates are dimensioned now. The straight side fitting clashes on approach; the rear option fits in the current model, with retreat still being checked

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NickBailey
Replying to OwenArcher0399

That's a useful rejection already. Did either option change the adapter or just the connection arrangement?

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OwenArcher0399
Replying to NickBailey

Just the connection arrangement, Nick. Rob, our toolroom owns the final spares list; they won't issue it from the provisional sales description

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IslaBlair
Replying to OwenArcher0399

Thanks for reporting the actual options. The vague parts-list line was doing plenty of damage.

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DavidAli0258
Replying to OwenArcher0399

Owen, is the rear hose envelope based on the supplier's proposed routing or on a freehand curve someone added to make the view look complete?

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OwenArcher0399
Replying to DavidAli0258

Supplier's proposed routing, David, identified on their returned drawing. The integrator still has to check it through withdrawal and the tool-change arrangement Priya mentioned. We haven't selected the arm from the approach view alone

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