Our FR10 pouch trial adds work before the easy transfer

EllaAllen0294 · 13 Aug 2025, 03:05 UTC

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EllaAllen0294
I think we should pause this proposal. The FR10 can move a bagged hardware kit into a tray, but we spend longer flattening bags and setting dividers than we expected. A different kit means another presentation adjustment. I helped justify the trial, so saying that out loud is uncomfortable. What have people measured to decide whether a short-run packing idea deserves another tooling round? I have transfer times, but they are clearly not the whole job.

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WillBarnes0574
Replying to EllaAllen0294

Compare a complete order with the current manual method, including preparing bags, changing setup and clearing the last pieces. Your transfer time can stay in the record without deciding the result.

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EllaAllen0294
Replying to WillBarnes0574

We have the manual order sheets. Trial sheet starts after the dividers are set, so I need to add the time before that point. There isn't an honest total yet.

8 points
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WillBarnes0574
Replying to EllaAllen0294

Agree what result would justify another round before measuring it, and include who would maintain the revised tooling. Otherwise each result can become a request for one more improvement.

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EllaAllen0294
Replying to WillBarnes0574

Colleague and I have agreed no further tooling spend unless a representative complete order reduces attended time without adding a constant specialist role. We haven't agreed how much reduction would be worthwhile.

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SofiaBell0630
Replying to EllaAllen0294

Ask the packer about the work itself too, Ella; less tiring handling could matter even if the clock barely moves, though flattening bags all day might be no improvement at all.

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EllaAllen0294
Replying to SofiaBell0630

She dislikes the flattening more than the original packing. But moving the finished trays off the bench is the tiring part, which this proposal doesn't address. That was a fairly sobering conversation.

19 points
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RosaChan1075
Replying to EllaAllen0294

We kept improving the part of a workflow our software could see. The awkward preparation stayed outside the demo. What happens with your ordinary mixed kit order, rather than one bag size repeated?

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WillBarnes0574
Replying to EllaAllen0294

Sofia's point could support a different proposal later, but I wouldn't use an untested tray-handling benefit to rescue this one. Your current trial needs judging on what it actually changes.

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EllaAllen0294
Replying to WillBarnes0574

Rosa, the ordinary mix needs two divider changes and some bags don't stay flat. Will, agreed on the boundary. We've compared that order now and attended time is longer than manual, even excluding the original development work.

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AnnaBaker0503
Replying to EllaAllen0294

Then stop that version. You can retain the measurements and useful tooling without keeping a production proposal alive because it already cost effort. Who is responsible for putting the trial kit away?

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WillBarnes0574
Replying to EllaAllen0294

Have you made the pause decision with your colleague, Ella? Curious whether the complete-order result changed the discussion more than the earlier transfer figures did.

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EllaAllen0294
Replying to WillBarnes0574

We have paused development and taken it out of the production plan. Maintenance will store the trial tooling with its drawings. Thank you, Sofia, for prompting the packer conversation; it stopped us claiming a comfort benefit she didn't feel.

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SofiaBell0630
Replying to EllaAllen0294

Glad you asked her, and the tray-lifting complaint deserves its own look now, without having to justify buying this robot first.

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