Finger channels under the carton support strips

JoBarnes0592 · 15 Nov 2025, 02:57 UTC

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JoBarnes0592
I've put the packed carton beside our FR5 pallet section and the rotated layer leaves one stiffened strip over a finger channel. Packaging wants the channel moved; tooling needs it to withdraw. Both drawings look tidy separately.

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EllaBarnes0555
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Give both teams the same section with the actual strip and finger movement shown. Who owns resolving the clash?

17points
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JoBarnes0592
Replying to EllaBarnes0555

Our project engineer owns the layout. He has the two marked drawings but no combined revision yet. The count in the estimate still comes from the original pattern.

18points
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SofiaChen1152
Replying to JoBarnes0592

I'd mark that count provisional now. My review had three drawings with different gaps before we put them together. It was surprisingly easy to think everybody had agreed the same arrangement.

23points
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AnikaCarter1030
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Where is the packing operator in this review? A clever final gap can still be an awkward place to recover a damaged carton.

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EllaBarnes0555
Replying to AnikaCarter1030

Anika, useful question, but Jo hasn't said the recovery task yet. The layout needs that task defined rather than an assumed hand reaching into the gap.

15points
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AnikaCarter1030
Replying to EllaBarnes0555

Fair. Jo, who handles a damaged carton and where is that done? That's what I should have asked.

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HarishBell0663
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Is the carton in the section the packed construction you currently receive? Same outside size doesn't always mean the supports inside stayed put. We nearly carried an obsolete assumption through a changeover because the pallet picture was unchanged.

23points
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JoBarnes0592
Replying to HarishBell0663

Harish, yes, packaging checked our current packed sample. Anika, damaged cartons are removed upstream before pallet loading; the interruption procedure at the pallet still needs defining.

15points
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SofiaChen1152
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Keep those as separate tasks in the review. Upstream rejection doesn't answer what happens if a carton is damaged during placement.

17points
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JoBarnes0592
Replying to SofiaChen1152

Understood, Sofia. I've added that open question rather than describing the upstream check as recovery. The combined section now shows exactly where the channel crosses the strip.

23points
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HarishBell0663
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Thanks for checking the construction. Has tooling offered a different withdrawal arrangement, or is packaging being asked to accept the same gap with a clearer drawing?

16points
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JoBarnes0592
Replying to HarishBell0663

Two alternatives proposed: changed withdrawal space, or a lower-count layer. Neither approved by packaging yet. The estimate now labels the original count provisional.

4points
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EllaBarnes0555
Replying to JoBarnes0592

Please post which survives the joint review. Including what happens to the interruption task, not only the carton count.

11points

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