Who decided it needed correction, and is that decision recorded for the retained sample?
Our bracket instruction skips from clamped straight to accepted
LauraBlair · 29 Nov 2025, 21:47 UTC
21 replies
Quality recorded the released failure and the final pass against one sample, but the correction detail just says adjusted by fitter.
12 pointsI've inherited that phrase. It covered a skilled person checking, correcting, checking again and occasionally asking for another opinion, all compressed into a word that made the job look automatic. Ask the fitter and quality to describe the actual route before the new instruction borrows its ending.
12 pointsDo the two measurements use the same supports and method? Our old correction time was being reused without that detail. It made the apparent before-and-after comparison much less certain.
9 pointsDifferent supports shown in the photographs, Ravi. I have the original sheets, not a method explanation. The final pass belongs to the corrected part, but I can't yet compare the numerical change fairly.
22 pointsKeep the released failure visible even if you withdraw the calculated change, because uncertainty about the comparison doesn't make that failure disappear from the process plan.
7 pointsAnd leave correction labour in the estimate as unresolved, not zero.
18 pointsJamie and Elliot, agreed. Laura, does the fitter still perform this bracket job, or are you asking someone to recall an old method they no longer use?
0 pointsStill performs it, Carla, but incoming pieces vary and he says there isn't one adjustment for every bracket; quality and he are being asked to define a current comparison.
4 pointsThat is a better starting point. Include what triggers correction and what inspection accepts afterwards. A time box alone won't tell the relief shift when they should call that fitter.
16 pointsWho writes the relief-shift route when the fitter isn't available, because named expert is not the same thing as a method someone else can use?
8 pointsCell owner with quality and the trainer; they haven't decided whether cover staff would do any correction or hold parts for the fitter, so the instruction must not assume either.
19 pointsHolding can be a valid route if the production consequences are understood. Don't invent a quick correction lesson just to preserve the proposed output figure. The process study may show that the fixture or incoming preparation needs work too.
15 pointsHas the estimator seen those two possible staffing routes?
8 pointsYes, both are being costed as options. No promise of unchanged output while waiting for the fitter. Current study scope still needs agreement.
19 pointsThanks for keeping the waiting consequence in it. Our estimate looked complete until somebody asked where the held brackets would go. Does yours name the holding location and identification?
1 pointsRavi, that matters to inspection too; a bracket awaiting correction must not drift back among accepted parts because both happen to sit beside the same bench.
-1 pointsProposed separate holding location with part identity and reason, Ravi. Quality is checking the arrangement. I don't want a colour sticker being our entire explanation.
15 pointsDoes the identifier stay with it when the fitter takes it away?
9 pointsThat is required in the draft, Elliot, with the final decision linked back to the same bracket. Neither the holding arrangement nor correction process has been signed off yet.
5 pointsDiscussion closed
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